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  • VST Synth Sounds Better At 44.1/16 Problem (p.2)
2016/02/10 08:18:03
dcumpian
SilverBlueMedallion
scook
Some do, some don't, some plug-ins don't work at all. Regardless, it will use more resources to run at 96K. FWIW, SONAR can run individual plug-ins at a different sample rate from the project, if desired.




Oh yea?  how can you tell Sonar to upsample a specific VST?
 
Ive read so many places that if you are at 96,000 then you don't have to worry about VST FX possibly distorting the music.




Not sure I'd believe that one. I record at 24/96 for the mixing headroom it gives me. Some VST's do sound brighter at higher sample rates, but I've never heard about VST's distorting music with proper levels.
 
Regards,
Dan
2016/02/10 12:06:19
Sanderxpander
He's talking about foldback distortion I think, which can compromise high frequencies in some very specific situations. Ampsims and some particularly bright VSTis are prone to this, if I remember correctly from Craig Anderton's testing. I haven't personally had any problems but I believe there is a control bar icon somewhere on the right hand side (probably labeled "2x" or something) that enables upsampling. 
2016/02/10 12:14:34
AdamGrossmanLG
Sanderxpander
He's talking about foldback distortion I think, which can compromise high frequencies in some very specific situations. Ampsims and some particularly bright VSTis are prone to this, if I remember correctly from Craig Anderton's testing. I haven't personally had any problems but I believe there is a control bar icon somewhere on the right hand side (probably labeled "2x" or something) that enables upsampling. 




i thought upsampling is VST specific, is there an option in Cakewalk to auto up-sample?
2016/02/10 12:17:25
dcumpian
Sanderxpander
He's talking about foldback distortion I think, which can compromise high frequencies in some very specific situations. Ampsims and some particularly bright VSTis are prone to this, if I remember correctly from Craig Anderton's testing. I haven't personally had any problems but I believe there is a control bar icon somewhere on the right hand side (probably labeled "2x" or something) that enables upsampling. 




I remember reading that. It's likely why some VST's sound brighter to me at higher sampling rates. My understanding, and m y own experience, tells me that the difference is quite subtle, especially in a mix.
 
Regards,
Dan
2016/02/10 21:39:46
stevec
SilverBlueMedallion
 
i thought upsampling is VST specific, is there an option in Cakewalk to auto up-sample?




This?
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=Mixing.26.html
 
2016/02/10 21:46:06
AdamGrossmanLG
stevec
SilverBlueMedallion
 
i thought upsampling is VST specific, is there an option in Cakewalk to auto up-sample?




This?
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=Mixing.26.html
 


oh wow, i didn't know about this!  i guess now there is absolutely no reason to start my projects at 96000 is there?
2016/02/11 01:59:22
Sanderxpander
Well if you have too much disk space and you want to fill it up quicker...? 
2016/02/11 02:00:23
AdamGrossmanLG
Sanderxpander
Well if you have too much disk space and you want to fill it up quicker...? 




im fine on disk space and my CPU can handle the 96 kHz, so why not - to ensure no foldover distortion ever happens?
2016/02/11 05:44:41
Sanderxpander
If you ask me what I personally think I say it's unnecessary to record at 96KHz. But do whatever you feel like. 
2016/02/11 06:01:47
Bristol_Jonesey
I'm with Sander on this one, from blind tests I cannot detect ANY difference between 44.1 & and any higher sampling rate, so as far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely no point.
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