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  • Studio Acoustics Question (p.3)
2018/06/03 13:52:18
Rbh
I would enjoy the room for general playback / editing  etc. - In my opinion you would be better off making actual mix decisions with good quality headphones.
2018/06/03 14:48:31
Johnbee58
Rbh
In my opinion you would be better off making actual mix decisions with good quality headphones.


Which I do!
I looked into ARC 2.5.  I can get it at Sweetwater for $200.00 and I'm considering it. 
 
My mixes currently sound great in my Walkman using Beats headphones and that is really how I listen to my stuff the most and they also sound great in my car (a 2010 Ford Escape).  I hardly ever mix using the JBL monitors because they sound so crappy.  I would like to improve how the mixes sound on the JBL monitors because I think if I could get the mixes to sound good on them in my recording room, they would sound better in more listening environments.  I have my music uploaded on Bandcamp and Soundclick and it sometimes bothers me what people might think of the overall fidelity of the music when they visit my sites and take a listen.  If the mixes sound crappy to me on my monitor speakers they must sound just as crappy to others playing them on the sites.  Maybe I worry too much.
 
JB
2018/06/03 16:11:21
Lynn
John, I use the ARC 2 system, and it indeed helps.  It was designed for studios like yours.  It'll make your JBL's useful.
2018/06/03 18:02:30
Johnbee58
I was just about to order ARC 2.5 but then I saw this video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSS6iyhqFqo
What's he talking about here?  Wouldn't you want to have this bounced into your mix, or not?  Also, does the resulting correction file go into the master buss?  I'm afraid this is going to lead to a routing nightmare.
 

2018/06/03 20:22:06
David
Arc or Sonarworks is for only listening only!  it is to try correct you room. It is turned off when mixing down.
   the problem is we could forget to turn if off when mixing down so people look at different routing solutions.
    Just put it on your master buss and turn it off when you mix down
2018/06/03 20:47:49
Johnbee58
David
Arc or Sonarworks is for only listening only!  it is to try correct you room. It is turned off when mixing down.
   the problem is we could forget to turn if off when mixing down so people look at different routing solutions.
    Just put it on your master buss and turn it off when you mix down


Alright.  Getting there but still a bit confused.  When you say "mixing down" do you mean having a project open and adding effects, balancing tracks, etc, or do you mean after we have the mix as we want and we go to file and render export, bounce) our mix to a wav, mp3?  I would think we want it on when we're doing the balancing, adding effects, adding automation, etc.  You mean turn it off when we decide to render our "mix" to a wav or mp3.  Right?
 
JB
2018/06/03 20:55:25
msmcleod
Johnbee58
David
Arc or Sonarworks is for only listening only!  it is to try correct you room. It is turned off when mixing down.
   the problem is we could forget to turn if off when mixing down so people look at different routing solutions.
    Just put it on your master buss and turn it off when you mix down


Alright.  Getting there but still a bit confused.  When you say "mixing down" do you mean having a project open and adding effects, balancing tracks, etc, or do you mean after we have the mix as we want and we go to file and render export, bounce) our mix to a wav, mp3?  I would think we want it on when we're doing the balancing, adding effects, adding automation, etc.  You mean turn it off when we decide to render our "mix" to a wav or mp3.  Right?
 
JB




What you're hearing from your master bus isn't actually what is being played, because your speakers/room aren't accurate.
 
ARC2 sits on your master bus to correct this. Think of it as a graphic EQ between the master bus and your speakers.
 
However, once you've done your mix / automation etc and you're ready to export, you need to switch ARC2 off.
 
You don't want your finished product EQ'd for your room. Other people won't be listening to it in your room. You want everyone to hear it as you "heard" it... i.e. without the correction.
 
M.
2018/06/03 20:58:47
msmcleod
As an analogy, say you had a camera and you're short-sighted.
 
You wear glasses to adjust for the fact that the camera "looks" out of focus for you.
 
ARC2 are the glasses, except in this case they're in front of the lense.
 
You've lined everything up and got it just how you want it. Once you're ready to "take your photo" (i.e. export to WAV), you take the glasses away... otherwise you'll get a blurry picture.
 
M.
 
2018/06/03 21:14:55
Johnbee58
msmcleod
As an analogy, say you had a camera and you're short-sighted.
 
You wear glasses to adjust for the fact that the camera "looks" out of focus for you.
 
ARC2 are the glasses, except in this case they're in front of the lense.
 
You've lined everything up and got it just how you want it. Once you're ready to "take your photo" (i.e. export to WAV), you take the glasses away... otherwise you'll get a blurry picture.
 
M.
 


OK.  This makes sense.  This is what I thought.  Thanks!
 
 
 
2018/06/04 01:18:18
Johnbee58
I think I may have a problem!  My Scarlett 6i6 interface has a problem running at 48 khz and it has to be able to for ARC.  I ordered ARC from Sweetwater.  I hope it's not too late to cancel it.  If I switch from 44.1 to 48 it will change but will not play anything.  If I click on a wav file to play a second time it will revert to 44.1.  Does this mean I can't run a test?
JB
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