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  • easy Q of the day? lines, lines everywhere
2016/02/06 13:01:41
Todd Page
greetings all - 
 
I have a 20 track project and everything works fine, but the track view is full of vertical lines everywhere. The pattern seems random  (it's not marking transients as best I can tell, for example), but it just looks a mess. From the top of the screen pane to the bottom and across all the tracks. For the life of me I can't figure out how to make them go away. I'm assuming I'm just clueless about some box I've ticked somewhere that asks for them, but after a few weeks [off and on] of searching, I'm not finding any answers. I've searched the forums and found nothing, reset the waveform drawing cache, and still no solution. 
 
Anyone out there with a solution? I'm wanting to attach a screen grab but the photo upload button here isn't working right apparently.....
 
todd
 
 
2016/02/06 15:58:25
Zargg
Hi. Which version of SONAR do you use? And sorry if this is obvious, but I am wondering if what you are describing are automation lanes 
If on X version or later, make sure all (redI is checked, and that you are not looking at volume, pan, etc (yellow). Do they turn grey / altered if you choose clips (green)? Hope it helps, and if not. Sorry
All the best.
2016/02/06 16:26:27
Todd Page
Ken - thanks for the reply - great question but no, they're not automation markings. I'm on the latest build (manchester) of sonar platinum. It's easiest to see in the highlighed tracks but they cross vertically all the way up to the top of the editing area.
 

 
2016/02/06 16:37:01
Todd Page
Here's another view - there are actually two tracks where it doesn't show the lines (they're both "bass" but I do have a third bass track down lower that has lines on it). I'm certain it's probably something that "supposed" to be there but I can't figure out how it got toggled on or off.....
 

2016/02/06 16:41:28
Leadfoot
It does look like you have it set to mark transients in Audio Snap. They don't always line up exactly. I would check that.
2016/02/06 16:50:20
Todd Page
Leadfoot - I have all the tracks set to show "clips" in the menus of each track (under the mute-solo-record-echo button) and not audio transients - but is there a button somewhere else that makes those display? I was originally thinking that was indeed the issue but I've not managed to find a spot anywhere else to toggle that on or off. 
 
Does it show transients without the "diamond" shapes that I usually see when editing timings on the transients?
2016/02/06 16:52:24
Sanderxpander
It looks like your clips are split a million ways? What happens if you open the take lanes view for one of the affected tracks? 
2016/02/06 16:56:59
Leadfoot
Todd Page
Leadfoot - I have all the tracks set to show "clips" in the menus of each track (under the mute-solo-record-echo button) and not audio transients - but is there a button somewhere else that makes those display? I was originally thinking that was indeed the issue but I've not managed to find a spot anywhere else to toggle that on or off. 
 
Does it show transients without the "diamond" shapes that I usually see when editing timings on the transients?

I forgot about the diamond markers. Sorry, didn't mean to confuse the issue.
2016/02/06 17:06:14
mettelus
I forget offhand how to find/shut AS off (believe in the inspector), but another quick way to strip AS data is to save the project as a bundle file (.bun) and reopen that bundle.
2016/02/06 17:30:10
Todd Page
Sanderxpander - only one of the tracks has more than one take, all other take lanes show only one take. Good thought....
 
mettelus - tried the bundle save and that actually did get rid of the artifact (great idea!) --
 
BUT, interesting thing, I was deleting several older tracks in the project to keep the size down, and found that two of the tracks (the ones that didn't have lines on them, interstingly), once deleted, took the lines away with them as well. If I undid the delete, the lines would come back again. On just one of them, freezing the track made them go away also. Once I deleted down to just one of the two suspected tracks and one other track (to reference the presence of the lines), it did look like those lines were following transients on the uncorrupted bass track. SO, looks like it's a bug.... trying to decide if it's worth talking to tech about or not - I don't know that anyone else has come across this (that I could find in the forums) so don't want to waste their time on a personal issue, lol.
 
Thanks all for the help - and Leadfoot - you were on the right "track" so to speak, too!
 
todd
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