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  • Time to start talking about the new year subscription options/changes? (p.9)
2016/01/08 09:51:07
Paul P
Karyn
There could be the argument that $99 for Splat is a limited special offer price, and thus could be limited to "One per registered product..."

 
It would be nice if such details were clearly specified.  There has been much confusion about the whole renewal process which could have been avoided by a bit of forethought.  All questions have been asked countless times, but they still haven't all been answered.
 
EDIT :  For example, can an 'upgrade' from X3 to Platinum still be purchased as a 12 month 'extension' to the first year Platinum membership like it has been possible to do until now ?
 
2016/01/08 09:56:38
Karyn
Paul P
Karyn
There could be the argument that $99 for Splat is a limited special offer price, and thus could be limited to "One per registered product..."

 
It would be nice if such details were clearly specified.  There has been much confusion about the whole renewal process which could have been avoided by a bit of forethought.  All questions have been asked countless times, but they still haven't all been answered.

I think it was expected that folk would simply buy a year at a time as and when required.
 
I have directly asked the Bakers about this and am waiting for a reply.
 
When I know, you'll know.
2016/01/08 19:07:14
Susan G
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
Susan G
Hi-
 
I started with a monthly membership in January and then opted in for an annual membership in March since I liked what I was seeing. I'll sit it out for a while once my membership expires, since most of the rest didn't thrill me, to be honest. The option to opt in at any point is great, whether to "demo" the new monthly offering or convince me to re-up my annual membership.
 
-Susan


I am not sure what you mean by opt-in and demo at any point. Can you clarify so I can clear up any misunderstanding.


Hi Andrew-
 
I mean basically do the same thing I did last year. I started with a monthly membership and decided to go for the full year shortly thereafter based on what I was seeing. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word "demo"? I put the word demo in quotes in that post since I realize it's not the same as the actual "demo" CW provides. That doesn't get updated frequently, so I consider paying for a month or two as more or less the equivalent of demoing the current product. 
 
Thanks-
 
-Susan
2016/01/08 23:24:25
declan
Leadfoot
Renewal price for Platinum now through March 31st is $99! Nice deal, bakers!



I bow.  I bow.
 
Um, wasn't there a lot of freaking out last year because "membership"/"upgrading" would be going up this year? 
 
I'll wait to see what they announce this week, but it sounds like SPLAT2016 won't have any 3rd party goodies (well, except for Craig's "stuff" ).
 
But based on 2015, it would be fool-hardy to think $99 isn't a very good deal. 
 
From a marketing perspective I don't understand why this wasn't offered long before now - I would've already bit.  But there's a fly-by-the-seat vibe about this. 
 
 
2016/01/09 00:13:05
noynekker
The $99 dollar renewal deal is very welcome news, especially since I was expecting what they announced last year ($199) Of course here in Canada it's really $119 . . . but my math says this Cakewalk renewal will cost me about 33 cents a day, which I personally find amazing, since I use Sonar Platinum many hours every day. It's less than 1/4 the cost of my morning coffee.
 
Do I like everything they've done this year ? No . . . but I certainly like enough of what they've done to renew and keep supporting the further development.
I also appreciate and understand that Cakewalk software caters to many different types of musicians, hence the many new features that I have never used, and probably never will.
 
The way this forum is set up must really help Cakewalk keep in touch with their user base, and I really hope they will develop some of the great ideas in the Features & Ideas forum this next year.
 
I'll also admit that I have never used or tried another DAW other than Cakewalk since the early floppy 90's, since they have never given me a good reason to switch or look elsewhere. Call me a fan boy, but it always gets the job done right, and I've always been able to find a way to export my projects to other DAWs for collaborations.
Count me in, as usual.
2016/01/09 01:14:42
Anderton
declan
I'll wait to see what they announce this week, but it sounds like SPLAT2016 won't have any 3rd party goodies (well, except for Craig's "stuff" ).

 
Actually CW has announced TH3 is upcoming, and don't forget we got a new Strum in 2015. However I think Cakewalk is unlikely to pre-announce things that involve third parties...if Nomad Factory was planning to come out with "Son of Blue Tubes" in September 2016, I highly doubt they would want Cakewalk to spill the beans about it in January.  
 
As to Craig's "stuff," I still create it for my own needs and offer it to CW for distribution, but what I create is not a priority for Cakewalk - they don't think it's important to members, so they rarely include it anymore.
 
 
2016/01/09 02:25:37
declan
Anderton
declan
I'll wait to see what they announce this week, but it sounds like SPLAT2016 won't have any 3rd party goodies (well, except for Craig's "stuff" ).

 
Actually CW has announced TH3 is upcoming, and don't forget we got a new Strum in 2015. However I think Cakewalk is unlikely to pre-announce things that involve third parties...if Nomad Factory was planning to come out with "Son of Blue Tubes" in September 2016, I highly doubt they would want Cakewalk to spill the beans about it in January.  
 
As to Craig's "stuff," I still create it for my own needs and offer it to CW for distribution, but what I create is not a priority for Cakewalk - they don't think it's important to members, so they rarely include it anymore.
 
 


Craig, I'm deeply appreciate of the content you've created.  I was joking about other people's comments.
 
Going back to Sonar1 there's been an interesting number of hits & misses regarding 3rd party content, but there was always a big selling point in that new world of virtual plug-ins/VI's that aren't as relevant now. 
 
Having said that, I have said that I would have been quite content with X3 had it not been for the AD2 stuff offered up in SPLAT,  and I turned out to be quite short-sighted there.
 
But CW did announce/leak 3rd party content a month or so before it was actually available and did for several years.  No doubt the world has changed, but at a time when everything is now I'm so glad that I, at the moment,  get to spend $300-$400 on personally discretional money (with blessings from the spouse) - and if the upgrade to SPLAT2016 was $199, as was strongly insinuated,  I was saying "no way" at a New Year's Eve party with 3 other Sonar users.
 
If CW had said a SPLAT upgrade was $99 months ago I'd never have been "shopping" the way I have been.
 
A $99 upgrade is a no-brainer for me, but I really do think CW has spent too much time selling the "membership model" rather than making people want the actual 2016 product.
 
I'm not being snarky here, but info coming out a couple of week before many "memberships" expire is at least a marketing strategy in any business I'm unfamiliar with.
 
 
 
 
 
2016/01/09 05:57:47
Karyn
declan
if the upgrade to SPLAT2016 was $199, as was strongly insinuated,  I was saying "no way" at a New Year's Eve party with 3 other Sonar users.
 
If CW had said a SPLAT upgrade was $99 months ago I'd never have been "shopping" the way I have been.
 
A $99 upgrade is a no-brainer for me, but I really do think CW has spent too much time selling the "membership model" rather than making people want the actual 2016 product.
 
I'm not being snarky here, but info coming out a couple of week before many "memberships" expire is at least a marketing strategy in any business I'm unfamiliar with.

I think this is what Cakewalk didn't anticipate. (and I must admit that I didn't either).
 
What you're implying is because you felt $199 was too much to pay for another 12 months of updates and new stuff, you were planning on buying (or maybe have bought) an alternative DAW to use instead of Sonar... 
 
Why?  Were/are you under the impression that if you don't renew then Sonar will stop working??  How much is a new DAW?  $300?  $500?
2016/01/09 09:38:41
jbow
OK... nevermind. As usual, when all else fails, read the instructions. I used Bapu's link (I had already used it but didn't click the Store Activity link. Now I see that 2016 is listed as paid. This is the link, maybe it will be of help here too: https://www.cakewalk.com/My-Account/Store-Activity
Sorry. Thanks Bapu and Willy
Julien
2016/01/09 09:47:12
Snehankur
jbow
 I don't see a new authorization number and I surely don't want to download Platinum again. I can only imagine the mess.
Do I need to contact Cakewalk or Cleverbridge? I'm thinking Cakewalk since I have an invoice number and CB reference number.
 
Thanks,
Julien


@Julien,
I assume :you will not get any new authorization number.
I am sure: you don't need to download, you will continue as it is.
I suggest: Please run command centre once to check for update.
I hope: This will update and you can see the extended date.
I know : If you still face problem, you have entire Cakewalk Team to solve your issues regarding this.
I Wish : you can imagine creating music not mess( as you have mentioned)
 
Regards
SG
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