2015/03/27 08:31:38
Mesh
ShellstaX
This guy thinks you're onto a winner @Mesh. Surely any MIDI signal (thru a MIDI Interface as it has no USB) should be controllable thru ACT huh? Not something I've spent any time on. Have fun.
 
Well - thanks everybody ... but I got GAS anyway and bought it ;). $150 AUD = ~ $120 USD. 3 month warranty if faulty, They'll buy it back at 50%, within 7 days, if I decide it simply isn't suitable - well, I guess they are in business :P
 
Working thus far - just gotta learn how to use it properly. For that - in Anderton I trust. Stumbled across a comprehensive tutorial series by none other than the aforementioned. Thanks Craig.


Congrats Shellsta on the new toy!! The one great thing about youtube is that it has all these tutorials available at our fingertips..........thank you for posting that link, I'll check it out.
 
Have fun jamming and looping!! :)) 
2015/03/28 09:46:26
ShellstaX
24 hours in ... and this thing is ridiculously good. I've only touched the surface - lots to explore yet.
 
I didn't expect it to have all the amp/cabinet modelling that it has (and I'm sure i'll be able to grab further IR from the community - I've seen user presets online, yet to download any. FX are sweet and an expression pedal - totally configurable.
 
Intuitive onboard controls and additional foot action shortcuts. I've got the X-Edit 2 software running on Win8 (albeit as a 32bit exe) which presents setup even more clearly and seemingly all aspects editable. It's also enabled me to grab a backup of all the settings.
 
I haven't actually loaded the drivers (nor the beta ASIO drivers) yet. I may do later after further research - nowhere does it imply they are supported by Win8. But I'm not sure I'll have to - ... USB Audio devices have been picked up (auto) - I've been able to record into Sonar. Latency is all but non-existant (5.8msec) using VoiceMeeter virtual ASIO ( I could probably get it lower).
 
I had an old 64MB CompactFlash  - that's good for 12 minutes onboard record/loop. But I've ordered a 2GB CF off of Ebay ($7.75 AUD) - 6 hours + of record and/or for use of mp3 backing track input. It's only supported to a 2GB card as that's all that's referrenceable in the required FAT16 formatting.  
 
So fingers crossed - but looking like a worthy investment.
2015/03/28 09:53:53
kakku
Congrats on the nice investment.
2015/03/30 14:41:50
mettelus
ShellstaX
I didn't expect it to have all the amp/cabinet modelling that it has (and I'm sure i'll be able to grab further IR from the community - I've seen user presets online, yet to download any. FX are sweet and an expression pedal - totally configurable.
 


I forgot this part, but yes there is a massive community which shares patches, which is rather nice. Ironically, the GNX3000 and GNX4 cannot be shared which left me scratching my head since they are the same vendor. Another utility to check out is an app they made to edit the parameters on a computer (is a GUI to tap into the pedal via its USB cable). That app alone (I forget its name), was nice, since it removed the need to manipulate all the tiny buttons and menus on the pedal itself.
 
I will probably get pounced on to say this, but I got a hard core tube amp years ago, since tube modeling (at that time) was in its infancy and I took the stance of "real tubes" and "digital processing is easy to come by." The parameters in the GNX4/GNX3000 are pretty "standard" in that they are not obsolete, but rather the mainstay of digital emulation (i.e. the "must haves"). I remember you asked this in the OP, but those do not go "obsolete" IMO.
 
I got my GNX3000 to replace an RP-10 which had a drift on the pedal, and even the factory bank in the RP-10 is still quite usable.
2015/03/30 22:13:03
ShellstaX
Yup - more than happy Mettelus. It would appear I've come across a classic rather than yestertech.
 
I can't believe this is 10 year old tech - it's new discovery for me and a step up in hardware (albeit digital) fx and control:
- multiFX / expression pedalboard
- amp sims (2 channels + Warp Channel. I have 26 AmpSims and and 22 CabSims - so perhaps some gifts from the previous owner(?) - your list above suggests 15. ) (EDIT: Oh no - 15 Guitar, 1 Acoustic, 10 Bass = 26).
- highly configurable
- drum machine
- recorder / looper
- audio inteface / mic + phantom
- speaker / headphone or amp out
- extendable with other footswitches
- good hardware and software control (X-Edit 2 - there ya go - more than just pedal control)
- apparently / seemingly good community resources
- solid build
 
Negs - A PITA for analogue purists(?) :P
 
Lots to play with.
2015/03/31 08:13:09
Mesh
Good for you ShellstaX!!! It's always nice when your new/old gear is surprisingly more valueable than you expect!!
 
Of note, I just realised I have the Digitech RP-10 and not the RP-1 as I stated above........so, I think I've also on my way to looking deeper into using this new/old foot controller.
2015/03/31 19:23:28
mettelus
+1, there is definitely a lot to play with in that box. It will keep you busy for a long time to come.
 
The RP-10 is no lightweight either, and the only issue that ever occurred with mine is the pedal cal would drift frequently (is over 20 years old now). The menus have to be tabbed through more than the GNX (I wonder if a GUI was made for this as well now), but it is simpler in some ways too. The RP-10 just seems more "stomp-worthy" from playing with both, since the switches are very similar to a true stomp box. I was always leery to actually stomp the GNX since the switches have so much play to them (they physically moves like 0.75").
 
In both cases the headphone out alone makes practicing more fun, since you can get the "high amp gain" feel without upsetting everyone in ear shot.
2015/05/11 14:43:06
mettelus
Wanted to put a quick update in here for Mesh on the RP-10. I tore mine apart and used Deoxit D5 on all of the connections/switches (many switches was just getting Deoxit into the surrounding gap and cycling several times). The board had been sitting unused (and turning into a Chia Pet) for over a decade. There are two cards in the device and the top has a "trick" to reassembly (due to the stem on the volume pot), which is to put it in diagonally to get the guitar input through its hole before lying it flat (and also have the hole for the volume stem off the table).
 
Another VERY curious thing was there is a piece of cardboard (box shaped) on the bottom end of the CC Pedal. Of course I pull this off and the CC Pedal is an opto-isolator (LED feeding a photo-transistor)! Not sure whose "brain child" that one was, but it is open to the atmosphere (via the slot on the top beneath the pedal). I cleaned both the LED and photo-transistor with isopropyl alcohol and put it all back together. I am very confused by this choice of component for that function though...
 
There is nothing whatsoever wrong with this board (was made in May 1995), and it even had my modified programs still in it. I totally forgot how well this sounds, and a little cleaning did wonders for it. I had to dig for a manual online to remember how to reassign the CC Pedal, but other than that little glitch, all went smooth. It wasn't until I found the manual that I realized how dynamic CC Pedal can be used. Back when I used this I was clueless about MIDI, but that pedal can be assigned to anything internally/externally (up to 10 parameters).
2015/09/05 07:13:23
mettelus
I have been messing with the RP-10 since the last post, but pulled out the GNX3000 last night and began to run it through the ringer. I never did much DAW work when I got it initially, so never realized all it can do. I had to dig into the manual to find out about the mic input, and that is phantom powered and always on, so this guy needs all connections made before the power switch is ever thrown. Latency is decent (10-11ms) for it being over a decade old, and it runs 4-in/2-out. I remember I ran this through my Saffire to cut the latency down when first tried using it a couple years ago, but it will transmit a nice variety (stereo w/FX on one pair, and guitar dry + mic dry on the other seems to work rather nicely).
 
I still feel like wrapped in spaghetti using it, and the "X-edit 2" software is a must for easy of patch manipulations (I hate all the tiny knobs and buttons myself), but thought I would share. It never really clicked with me until I checked out the back panel last night that this is a full-blown audio interface (with MIDI ports even).
2015/09/05 09:24:06
ShellstaX
Still luvin' my GNX4 / with X-Edit 2.
 
Yes - I was aware it is a full-blown Audio/Interface ... but I've never used it as such (despite it perhaps being more 'capable' (e.g, 4-in/2-out) than my Behringer setup. There is +48V phantom power switch on the GNX4.   (The GNX3000 has +15V phantom power).
 
I'm not saying one's better than the the other - just passing on some possibly interesting info from a quick internet poke around ... (second-hand info):
 
1. GNX 3 / 4 / 3000 Comparison ([pdf] - 55KB (small) download - virus/malware scanned as clean (I encourage you to do your own checks)).
 
2. 
GNX4:
8-Track recorder
CF card for presets, mp3 and custom midi tracks
MP3 Player
3 control pedals (3 links each)
True +48V phantom power for mic
GNX3000:
More amps, better algorithms
Univibe effect
+15V phantom power
Learn-a-lick
More ergonomic switches? Personal preferrence I suppose.
No V-switch sensitivity adjustment
(source: Digitech Forum link)
 
 
 
 
 
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