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  • Question about tempo in Sonar and Melodyne 4- YES! Workaround suggested by briandhughes (p.3)
2016/01/25 23:48:58
Kamikaze
Ah but it was the subtlety I was after. But the none subtle looks to have amazing potential too. New years holiday next week. Not had anytime for anything for so long, I can't wait.
2016/01/25 23:51:55
Kamikaze
My Birthday today, Studio and another Sonar year will be my presents to myself. Too old to get them from anyone else
 
Meaning of life they say.
2016/01/25 23:54:43
Vastman
I was trying to figure this out all afternoon and started another thread...as didn't see this one... but... here's the procedure from start to finish that seems to work which I posted elsewhere... klugy but works!  If you had a band with 5 or 6 tracks it would be a royal pain:
 
OK, so this is the kludgy system that seems to work: (based on writing a free form piano track with no click)
  1. export the piano as a wav file
  2. bring up M4studio or editor's external desktop program
  3. load the wav into M4... select all (don't know if this is necessary)
  4. Click Edit, go to Temp at bottom, click Detect Tempo of Selection
  5. File export, Tempo map... save it with your song/wav file folder
  6. Go to Sonar, Go to file open (yes, a NEW song!), and select the saved tempo map (the .mid file in "5" above)
  7. It will import the tempo map... 
  8. Then you can re-import the wav file melodyne analyzed into this new song.
This is real wacked, especially if you have several live tracks to save and reimport...
 
Studio1 v.3 has a much better/easy/direct ara system per a pdf prepared by a forum member I reviewed while trying to figure this out.  Imports directly in the same song into the tempo map.
 
I'm sure the bakers are gonna fix this but it's NOT fixed in Manchester as I'm running it...
2016/01/26 06:58:44
briandhughes
Vastman
Studio1 v.3 has a much better/easy/direct ara system per a pdf prepared by a forum member I reviewed while trying to figure this out.  Imports directly in the same song into the tempo map.

I'm sure the bakers are gonna fix this but it's NOT fixed in Manchester as I'm running it...


I figured this would not be in the Manchester update because of no mention of it in the Ezine. I have no doubt that the bakers will come up with something.
By the way you can export the tempo map from the plugin as a midi file but you still have to jump all the same hoops as you listed bringing it back in as a new project.
Brian
2016/01/26 10:57:41
Atsuko
briandhughes
Acron
I haven't upgraded yet. Can export to midi be a workaround? Can it preserve the tempo? 


Yes export to Midi from the stand alone program works. You then have to start a new project in Sonar and open the midi file so it will set the tempo map. Do not import the midi file, use file open.
Brian


Vastman
I was trying to figure this out all afternoon and started another thread...as didn't see this one... but... here's the procedure from start to finish that seems to work which I posted elsewhere... klugy but works!  If you had a band with 5 or 6 tracks it would be a royal pain:
 
OK, so this is the kludgy system that seems to work: (based on writing a free form piano track with no click)
  1. export the piano as a wav file
  2. bring up M4studio or editor's external desktop program
  3. load the wav into M4... select all (don't know if this is necessary)
  4. Click Edit, go to Temp at bottom, click Detect Tempo of Selection
  5. File export, Tempo map... save it with your song/wav file folder
  6. Go to Sonar, Go to file open (yes, a NEW song!), and select the saved tempo map (the .mid file in "5" above)
  7. It will import the tempo map... 
  8. Then you can re-import the wav file melodyne analyzed into this new song.
This is real wacked, especially if you have several live tracks to save and reimport...

Studio1 v.3 has a much better/easy/direct ara system per a pdf prepared by a forum member I reviewed while trying to figure this out.  Imports directly in the same song into the tempo map.

I'm sure the bakers are gonna fix this but it's NOT fixed in Manchester as I'm running it...



The instructions of Brian (above) seem to be easier...
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