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  • Any Tricks For Keeping The Low End Of A Track Mono? (p.2)
2016/01/24 11:00:56
AdamGrossmanLG
Thank you everyone for the advice.  I will check out all the plugins mentioned here.  Much appreciated!
2016/01/24 11:30:38
gustabo
+1 on Mongoose!
2016/01/24 11:36:54
cparmerlee
jatoth
Ozone 6 and 7 have a multiband "stereoizer". Let's you narrow or spread individual frequency ranges.



That's what I was thinking.  And most of the other tools in Ozone have the option for M-S handling, so you might be able to do something in the Ozone multi-band compressor or equalizer using the M-S settings.
 
That's a bit of money, bit there is a load of value in the Ozone suite.
2016/01/24 11:47:03
Beepster
Two ways using the same concept (and included Sonar tools).
 
1) This is more mastering (so after you've mixed and exported). Import your mixed export to a new "mastering" project. Clone the track. On both tracks insert the Sonitus Multiband (compressor). On the first track enable every band except the lowest band (so all the low frequencies are silenced. On the second track do the reverse (mute all bands except the lowest frequency band). Now on the second track (which is only playing back the low freqs) hit the Stereo Interleave button to turn it into mono. Of course you may want to adjust exactly how wide that low band is so if you want to adjust it do the adjustment then clone it to the other track. That way you can mute the necessary bands without having any frequncies ommitted or duplicated (because you cloned the effect the band settings will be identical on both instances).
 
2) If you want to do this IN the mix then do essentially the same thing but with Sends and Busses. So make sure ALL your tracks get sent to two busses right before the master (so you would be routing your subgroup busses to these if you are using them. Otherwise you'd have to set it up on every track. You shoudl always use sub busses though for instrument groups). So on all your sub busses set the output to one of your Sonitus Multiband busses and create a Send to the second Multiband bus. Then you just set your frequency bands as described before and set the Interleave button on the low freq bus to Mono.
 
Of course you need to set up all instances of the Sonitus Multiband to not do ANYTHING to the signal. So no compression or limiting or whatever. You are just using it as a frequency splitter.
 
That is kind of a bastardization/reimagining of some Anderton techniques.
 
Cheers.
2016/01/24 12:06:15
lawajava
Beepster that's solid info but a heck of a lot more involved than adding a dedicated plugin, such as Mongoose, that keeps it simple.
2016/01/24 12:26:34
Beepster
lawajava
Beepster that's solid info but a heck of a lot more involved than adding a dedicated plugin, such as Mongoose, that keeps it simple.



Heh... minimalism through poverty.
 
Part of the reason I decided on Sonar (X1 Prod Suite) was it had everything included to do almost anything. Not always as elegant and pretty as it would be with third party tools and/or addons (in some cases) but I can't afford much (including time to even mess with "free plugs" that might anger the Sonar gods and/or gremlins)... so brute force jury riggin' elbow grease is how I roll... when necessary.
 
Helps me understand the techniques better too instead of slapping a plug on things and staying oblivious. lol
2016/01/24 14:25:20
gswitz
Send the signal to two buses and use the Cakewalk Multiband compressor with compression turned off (either Sonitus or LP64 Multiband work). It needs to be set identically on the 2 buses. On one bus solo the bass band only. On the other, solo everything else.
 
On the bus with bass only, add a channel tools plugin after the Multiband and narrow the stereo spread.
 
Dag, I just typed exactly what Beep typed. haha. Nice one Beep.
2016/01/24 14:38:35
Beepster
gswitz
 
Dag, I just typed exactly what Beep typed. haha. Nice one Beep.




Except you did it quite a bit more concisely. lol
 
I really should learn how to make my wordimicating a little smaller one day.
 
;-)
2016/01/24 23:59:25
SF_Green
WalkerTalker
I use this free plugin:
 
http://www.toneprojects.c...cts/plug-ins/basslane/




Me too.  But also the Ozone solution works if you have that.  Basslane is considerable cheaper though, obviously(free!).
2016/01/25 00:21:56
SF_Green
lawajava
WalkerTalker
I use this free plugin:
 
http://www.toneprojects.c...cts/plug-ins/basslane/


Had not heard of that one. Looks very similar in function / purpose. Good find!



I found it through SOS's Mix Rescue column.  Excellent column to read, but usually ends up giving me G.A.S.!  So it's a nice bonus when the plug ins used are free!
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