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  • To/By Switch (p.2)
2016/01/20 17:37:56
Bristol_Jonesey
Paul, where are you switching To/By?
 
There are 2 settings, one in the Control bar and one in the PRV. You need to switch the one in the PRV for it to work in the PRV.
 
That sounds dumb, but you know what I mean.
 
Apologies if you already know this, but it works fine here.
 

2016/01/20 17:42:21
polarbear
Paul P
polarbear, could you please take a look at message #7 of this thread.  It was deleted by the spam blocker for some reason, and restored, but you probably won't notice it's revival.  Thanks.
 





I should mention the little bit I did this in last night was in the overall track view, not in piano roll, and also I had it on whole notes, not half. I'm not by my computer right now, and I've only used this new discovery on two examples so far in my playing around with it... But when I get home I can take a look and try another example to see if I can replicate the issue you're running into.
 
Also not sure what's up with the spam thing? Weird...
2016/01/20 19:55:44
Paul P
Bristol_Jonesey
There are 2 settings, one in the Control bar and one in the PRV. You need to switch the one in the PRV for it to work in the PRV.



Thank you Colin !  It works now in the PRV for the reason you provided.
 
But for inline editing of a midi clip, the switch in the Control Bar still has no effect.  Always behaves like "To" independant of switch position.
 
Can you get "By" to work in the inline view ?
 
2016/01/21 04:46:19
Bristol_Jonesey
Dunno, didn't try it last night.
 
I'll have a look when I get home this evening.
2016/01/21 08:23:51
jpetersen
My experience is that "By" is the default.
I even entered a Feature Request asking to have this set to "To" by default.
 
Sonar has several tools to aid snap-to-grid.
 
Clips can be given a snap offset,
Entire tracks can be given an offset (good for slow-attack sounds, like strings)
and, yes, "Snap By".
2016/01/21 08:45:14
BlixYZ
There is no doubt- it is life-changing.
I beg anyone who doesn't use or understand it to listen to the above!
2016/01/21 10:23:25
Paul P
My confusion stemmed from working mostly in midi at the note level in the PRV (where the To/By selection is almost hidden).
 
I just discovered that there is also snap funcitionality at the clip level in track view, and it's this snap that is controlled by the To/By switch in the Control Bar.
 
So the only question that remains is whether it's possible to set snap to 'By' in the inline PRV view.
 
[I'd also like to know if it's possible to change the inline PRV's visible grid resolution]
 
 
2016/01/21 12:51:52
polarbear
BlixYZ
There is no doubt- it is life-changing.
I beg anyone who doesn't use or understand it to listen to the above!


 
Exactly, I'm always in track view unless i jump into staff view for specific note editing (don't really use PRV). But in track view I do most of my editing/arranging, and that is where this whole To/By thing really shines. Tried it again last night and it worked exactly how I hoped :-) I had a repeating vocal part that was just a tiny clip (a "Yea! Yea!") and the clip didn't extend exactly from the beginning of a bar. So dragging copies wouldn't have lined them up properly if left to "To" but switching to "By" and when I made my copy it was exactly in the right spot :-)
 
Hopefully someone else can help with Paul's question because I'm not used to PRV to begin with so I probably wouldn't be the best at figuring out why it wasn't working as expected for him.
 
2016/01/21 14:18:55
Paul P
polarbear
Hopefully someone else can help with Paul's question because I'm not used to PRV to begin with so I probably wouldn't be the best at figuring out why it wasn't working as expected for him.



Thanks just the same David since your thread got me to properly learn snap once and for all.  I never work in the inline PRV so the rest is just curiosity.
 
2016/01/21 15:30:08
TimV
Thanks for pointing this out. I, too, was unaware of it. This will really be helpful.
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