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  • Sync issue - Importing/Exporting
2016/01/21 17:13:00
whack
I'm at a last fuse, collaborating has been a pain in the ass because of this.
 
If I export a track and import it back in there is a small lag from the imported track???
 
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UPDATE:It seems to be only when I do it with mp3? Another observation is that any track I import seems to have a slightly different wav line at the very start(~30ms)
 
Need help
 
Regards,
 
Cian
2016/01/21 17:18:39
notscruffy2
What format are you exporting as? ie mp3, wav...? and what format are you getting back to import?
2016/01/21 17:35:49
jamesyoyo
Since I am the one collaborating with Cian, any response would be appreciated !
2016/01/21 17:51:30
whack
Update:
If I export the file in wav and return in wav it is fine, if export in mp3 and return in mp3 there is about a 50ms lag present.
 
Another observation, if i import any song into my DAW there is a slight difference in the baseline of the wav at the very start like 30ms or so, has anyone seen this?
 
Cian
 
 
2016/01/21 17:57:26
gustabo
That is the nature of mp3
http://lame.sourceforge.net/tech-FAQ.txt
 
2016/01/21 18:38:39
whack
Thanks,that makes sense ,how does everybody else collaborate,everyone else wav those files instead of mp3? lots of  people collaboarate here
 
Cian
2016/01/21 18:57:49
gustabo
I use wav
2016/01/21 20:30:07
microapp
use WAV or FLAC.
Increasing the MP3 bitrate to the point where I would want to work with it makes the MP3 not that much smaller than FLAC.
I have not however, exported then imported a FLAC file. It may be that any encoding/decoding causes timing offsets. (which makes sense for MP3...not sure about FLAC).
If I collaborate with another Sonar user, I simply zip the project and share that. For collaboration with non-Sonar users or to move to/from Cubase for example, I use broadcast WAVs.
 
2016/01/22 08:08:58
whack
thanks fellas, important
 
Cian
2016/01/22 09:44:46
mettelus
As mentioned above, mp3 file encoding leads to variations in start time. If using mp3 (which is enticing for its size), it is best to put a well-defined transient on the lead of stems/tracks as applicable. This still requires alignment and a lead on the song, but I also use loop markers on the song (or sections I want) to not rewind to zero (i.e. rewind to loop start).
 
Broadcast wavs are best, but size may be problematic with free services that only allow finite bandwidth usage.
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