denverdrummer

eric_peterson
I think you really have to re-think a GUI if you want it highly usable with touch interfaces. I have a 24" touch screen Sony VAIO that I used to drive the Presonus 16.4.2 in our PA.  Trying to use the Presonus SW using the touch interface is an exercise in frustration, some widgets aren't even usable. In sharp contrast, when we all take out our iPads and connect to it the touch interface works like a dream. 

I had the same experience when I had the 1818VSL, which has a similar interface to the Live mixer systems.  What is sad is that the iPad was a waste because I found out I still had to have the 1818VSL connected to my computer and then have that computer connected to a router, and then use the iPad on top.
 
I was trying to get a system that was ultra portable and I could setup for a live gig and run out of the VSL as a submix to the front of house.  Would have been awesome if I could just taken the VSL and an iPad and be done with it.
 
My next route was to try using my wife's Surface Pro.  Would have been great but for two things, the first is exactly what you're talking about, the interface for the desktop app sucked for touch, and wouldn't even format to the screen correctly on a 10" display.  The second problem was I found out that the VSL stuff is incompatible with Intel USB 3.0 ports, which is the reason I sold it.
 
I'm really sad to have given that up because there's really not another interface that works as well for both live sound and recording, that also has integrated Midi ports.  I was looking at the MOTU, which is an awesome interface, but alas no integrated MIDI I/O.
 
Having said all that, I use touch screen in Sonar mainly to navigate the project.  Oh my gosh it's so much faster than trying to use the mouse wheel with CTRL and Shift.  You can literally fly across the project page using swipe, and it's invaluable in the PRV.

How about an RME UFX? Totalmix FX is completely iPad optimized.
Hrm actually that means having the cable connected as it doesn't do wireless without a PC... Did they update the X32 yet to make the midi port available to the DAW?

Wow, what a thread...

I haven't seen any mention of the NEW Behringer X-Touch... which uses the Mackie protocol...
http://www.behringer.com/EN/products/X-TOUCH.aspx

There's just something about real faders, and right now there is a wide open market for an affordable control surface for home/project studios.

The winners will be the manufacturers of those control surfaces, and the DAWs that work well with them.

As for touch screen control, I have my iPad, but have yet to find a good surface/control app that work well with Sonar X3(d),
and every review I've read on devices like the Slate Raven eventually get to "yeh, it's cool - but I still want my real faders"...

I like V-Control Pro a lot, for your iPad.

Sanderexpander -
I had high hopes for V-Control, but found out that things like sends volumes can't be accessed across all the tracks...

I had really hoped to use that for a four-headphone mix we use for "live" recording in the studio, (from behind the kit), but found that you cannot choose from and adjust multiple sends on multiple tracks.

For simple transport operations, it's fine, but it's really designed for ProTools, and as such they don't put much effort into tailoring it to other DAWs ...

I had their support trying to help, but they realized the shortfall right away, and basically said ProTools has their focus.

Ah right, I haven't had the need for that so far. You could do it from the V-Window but that's less than ideal.
Thank you for chiming in with that.

drummaman
Wow, what a thread...

I haven't seen any mention of the NEW Behringer X-Touch... which uses the Mackie protocol...
http://www.behringer.com/EN/products/X-TOUCH.aspx

I am very interested in this too. Seems like they have a potentially great product at a very nice price point. Behringer has really stepped up its game recently.

TheSound
Yeah. Basically: 
 
The previous behavior was:
 
Request a handshake over and over again and do nothing else until you're responded to.
 
The behavior after my modifications:
 
Immediately pretend a successful handshake happened.
Never request a handshake.
If you get a handshake request, behave as usual and handshake back. (should keep everything that worked before, working still).
 
 

Just to give you some feedback: this works perfectly. No more "waiting...", no more midi hacks!!!

This should be made sticky!

Thanks a lot!

I agree. It may be a good idea to make this thread a sticky, so we don't miss any progress made and shared with the community. As a sticky, this thread can easily be found when having to refer to this thread for one reason or another.

Absolutely need to be a sticky. It's not a random/no interest thing. There's the actual link to the files which will be burried in the forums! That's unforgivable!

We will be officially releasing the surface SDK next week and will include binaries for all the included surfaces including the Mackie with the fixes. We have posted updates to all the surfaces and now all the samples including the VS700 and VS100 build properly.