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2015/12/20 10:48:50
LaszloZoltan
John
 
I am very glad this was said. To a certain degree we take Graig for granted. Sort of a Sonar perk for Sonar users. I like to think Mr. Anderton is our secrete weapon that no one else has. We owe him so much there is no way to repay him. 




hear that Graig ? I guess that means no Christmas bonus for you....sorry
2015/12/20 15:58:12
SONARtist
Things have certainly turned for the better since Gibson took over !  We've had a great year with those updates and the eZine is a favorite read.  Thank you all at Cakewalk - you're doing a grand job ... keep at it
 
To all my fellow Walkers, have a great Xmas and an even better and successful 2016 !  Craig, youz the man !
 
"The SPlatters"
2015/12/20 16:47:41
fitzj
When does Craig rest? So much work every month. Thanks Craig
2015/12/21 18:11:19
yevster
Anderton
As to Lexington, big thumbs up to Cakewalk for emphasizing optimizations. While perhaps not as sexy as new features these are making a big (or to quote Donald Trump, a HUGE and AMAZING) difference in my day-to-day work.




This! While on some level better designed, neither Cubase nor StudioOne perform half as well on Windows as Sonar does. In fact, the last song I did in Cubase was, by the end, impossible to tweak without freezing every channel and setting the latency to max. I get the sense that both of those DAWs are written first and foremost for mac.
 
In Sonar, meanwhile, projects of equal complexity require no tweaking or murderous rage at all.
 
There are still incredibly "dumb" things Sonar does, but it does enough of the important things really well.
2015/12/21 18:28:37
brconflict
yevster
Anderton
As to Lexington, big thumbs up to Cakewalk for emphasizing optimizations. While perhaps not as sexy as new features these are making a big (or to quote Donald Trump, a HUGE and AMAZING) difference in my day-to-day work.




This! While on some level better designed, neither Cubase nor StudioOne perform half as well on Windows as Sonar does. In fact, the last song I did in Cubase was, by the end, impossible to tweak without freezing every channel and setting the latency to max. I get the sense that both of those DAWs are written first and foremost for mac.
 
In Sonar, meanwhile, projects of equal complexity require no tweaking or murderous rage at all.
 
There are still incredibly "dumb" things Sonar does, but it does enough of the important things really well.


Agreed on how efficient Sonar has become on Windows. And with the next version to probably improve on that performance is certainly welcome. When the DAW can become more of a machine and less software-feeling, it's more likely this can find its way into more professional environments. I'll admit I've been seriously considering PT12, but I don't believe they are all that on Windows (reading forums), and Sonar is far more intuitive--one of the main attributes that attracted me to X1. The only thing left (I mean the ONLY thing!) that keeps me looking at PT is the larger faders and dual pan knobs. I'm honestly and genuinely surprised this hasn't been baked yet into Sonar. When you look at the pictures in catalogs, this is the one thing that appears lacking compared to other competing products.

People mention Duckbar to me often, but I prefer not to use home-brewed add-ons like that.
2015/12/21 18:41:29
Soundwise
brconflict
The only thing left (I mean the ONLY thing!) that keeps me looking at PT is the larger faders and dual pan knobs. I'm honestly and genuinely surprised this hasn't been baked yet into Sonar.

Dual pan controls in Sonar track strip would be a very welcome addition. Yet I don't get the idea behind long throw faders. How can this make Sonar more useful and efficient?
2015/12/21 19:11:06
brconflict
Soundwise
brconflict
The only thing left (I mean the ONLY thing!) that keeps me looking at PT is the larger faders and dual pan knobs. I'm honestly and genuinely surprised this hasn't been baked yet into Sonar.

Dual pan controls in Sonar track strip would be a very welcome addition. Yet I don't get the idea behind long throw faders. How can this make Sonar more useful and efficient?


Just as the other DAW's have larger faders for their own reasons, mine would be making frequent, minute adjustments. Many times, I find myself editing the value of the fader, vs. moving it. Just sneeze and you've gone to far with an adjustment. CTRL+Click-drag the fader is useful, but a work-around. Automation envelope recording by fader movements would be much simpler, for sure. When automating via fader movements by hand, it's often I have to go back and edit the envelopes. Very often.
 
This is one of the most rooted adjustments in any mix. For marketing alone, it should also be the most welcoming, IMO. I'd like to have larger faders vs. the trick of Ctrl+drag the faders for more accurate movements. Or even both.
2015/12/21 20:30:14
Soundwise
brconflict
I'd like to have larger faders vs. the trick of Ctrl+drag the faders for more accurate movements. Or even both.



Thanks for your reply.
I tend to set volumes roughly by dragging faders and then adjust by typing a value. Although I would rather just mouse-wheel values like it's done in Magix Movie editor.
1. Hover mouse over a fader - you get a rough adjustment.
2. Hover mouse over a value- you get a fine adjustment.
 

 
PS Probably it should be posted in FR forum.
 
PPS Isn't it Shift+drag for finer adjustment?
2015/12/21 20:35:37
BobF
Soundwise
brconflict
I'd like to have larger faders vs. the trick of Ctrl+drag the faders for more accurate movements. Or even both.



Thanks for your reply.
I tend to set volumes roughly by dragging faders and then adjust by typing a value. Although I would rather just mouse-wheel values like it's done in Magix Movie editor.
1. Hover mouse over a fader - you get a rough adjustment.
2. Hover mouse over a value- you get a fine adjustment.
 

 
PS Probably it should be posted in FR forum.
 
PPS Isn't it Shift+drag for finer adjustment?




I would really like that.  You should FR that one.  An easy way to get fine control without chewing up screen space.
2015/12/21 20:54:23
Anderton
Soundwise
Dual pan controls in Sonar track strip would be a very welcome addition.



brconflict
The only thing left (I mean the ONLY thing!) that keeps me looking at PT is the larger faders and dual pan knobs. I'm honestly and genuinely surprised this hasn't been baked yet into Sonar.

 
Can't do anything about the faders (other than Shift+Drag), but see the next "Friday's Tip of the Week" for how to integrate dual panpots directly into one, more, or all Console view channel strips. Of course, we'll also take it further, so you'll have better control over the stereo imaging than any other DAW. 
 
 



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