Checking back in...sorry to say, Z3TA was more of a problem than anything else thus far.  I've read through the all a majority of the Wiki references and played around and got to know the ins and the outs of both Rapture and Dimension Pro.  I guess I'm going to have to just try to keep tweaking until I come up with something...

Here's the deal.  I'm currently in the process of recording all my new originals.  I wish it were easier to say the least, but of course, I know EVERYONE can relate to that sentiment! lol  Still, the sound I'm trying to come up with is about the only sound I'm fairy certain will go with my overall "sound" ...especially my guitar.  It's prettty much in the vein of a hardcore, progressive fussion.  When I say hardcoer, I mean more metal than actual hardcore, but eh...you know.  Anyway, it's sublte, it's not over powering, it layers well, and pretty much all the "factory leads" are either WAY out in left field or they're just too pronouced.  So, until something gives...

Been up all night trying to figure it out...but no luck.  I thought I was onto something with PYNII but it turned out a nice educational session on old synths (definitely a better "analogue" version compared to z3ta.  Oh well...it was worth the try.  Night-night...Zzz

Tom,

Just checking back in - still no luck.  I'll check back in perioduically.  Let me know when you get some time.

Thanks!

Sorry you're finding z3ta+ problematic - I suggested it because it has PWM capability explicitly and that seemed to me to be what you were lacking.  However, having looked at Tom's link to RGC's clever use of a simple additive approach to generate PWM from saw tooth waves, I'm sure that will get you what you want ... and it taught me that I should think a little more laterally sometimes - you can get there from 'ere.

ChristopherM


Sorry you're finding z3ta+ problematic - I suggested it because it has PWM capability explicitly and that seemed to me to be what you were lacking.  However, having looked at Tom's link to RGC's clever use of a simple additive approach to generate PWM from saw tooth waves, I'm sure that will get you what you want ... and it taught me that I should think a little more laterally sometimes - you can get there from 'ere.

I was able to get the PWM's, and was able to synch up everything in Rapture, but as far as replicating "the sound," it's a no go...  I just cannot seem to figure it out.  The reason, I believe, is because the "master sound" (or end product) can't be filtered altogether at the same time.  If anyone has any success, I'll be waiting in the wings...
 
 
These are the steps:
 
Rapture
 
1.  Element 1 - Perfect Saw Up
2.  Element 2 - Perfect Saw Down (set the phase to 118 or 33%)
3.  Chain Element 1 to Element 2
3.  Element 3 - 003-analog saw 1 (from the Rapture Pro sounds directory) detune to -3 cents
4.  Everything is as it should be...the problem is that this "master sound" cannot be filtered simultaneously...
 
Any suggestions will be most appreciated.
 
Thanks!

plz help...cant use my dimension pro..

What you are trying to do (PWM) is a staple of analog synthesis (and virtual analog).  It would probabably be best to try a different synth that can do this from the get-go.  Dim and Rapt have the workaround, but are sample-based, so it is harder to do than on a VA(virtual analog).

Try ugo audio and download his free "Rez" - it is a single oscillotor, monophonic synth.  Pretty sure it has PWM and is about as simple of a VA  as you are like to find.  Obviously it won't give you the 2nd OSC and I don't think it has bandwidth, but it is a great synth to learn some basics on.

You can also try the Pozione demo from FL studio.  It is a good VA and should have everything to make the sound you want work.  It seems to be a replica of the Siel DK 600 - my first polysynth.  PWM is built in for the one OSC (just use the other for the SAwtooth).  Not sure if bandwith filter is built in, but finding an alt. will help with the programmng chops.

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AT


What you are trying to do (PWM) is a staple of analog synthesis (and virtual analog).  It would probabably be best to try a different synth that can do this from the get-go.  Dim and Rapt have the workaround, but are sample-based, so it is harder to do than on a VA(virtual analog).

Try ugo audio and download his free "Rez" - it is a single oscillotor, monophonic synth.  Pretty sure it has PWM and is about as simple of a VA  as you are like to find.  Obviously it won't give you the 2nd OSC and I don't think it has bandwidth, but it is a great synth to learn some basics on.

You can also try the Pozione demo from FL studio.  It is a good VA and should have everything to make the sound you want work.  It seems to be a replica of the Siel DK 600 - my first polysynth.  PWM is built in for the one OSC (just use the other for the SAwtooth).  Not sure if bandwith filter is built in, but finding an alt. will help with the programmng chops.

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Thanks for the input AT - very much so appreciated! I've tried every synth that comes bundled with S8P to no avail - very disappointing.  There's another sound I'm trying to reproduce, but can't do that either. Apparently, it's a standard bank on a Kurzweil K2600 bankset, but I'm a guitar player - not a KB'ist.  My chops are pretty good (on the piano) and I can play pretty good, but in the long run, I don't think it's worth me going out and dumping that much cash for a keyboard I'd only use in the studio.  I'm basically learning all my rhythms and leads on the KB and then playing "double leads and adding to the rhythmical atmosphere" with both the guitar and KB.  You'd think with all the hype, and especially all the technological advancements that there'd be a VST based synth that would be capable of reproducing such sounds/affects...  Maybe there is and I just haven't found it. 
 
The good news is that in trying to reproduce such sounds, I've created some really nice ones with Dimension Pro.  Rapture seems to be based more for people who can't play the piano or have any such talent whatsoever (maybe I'm wrong).  Regardless, I'll definitely keep up my pursuit, and in the process, definitely try ou your suggestions.  Thank you!
 
 
 

pusacat


plz help...cant use my dimension pro..

There's some pretty good resources (many people on this forum directed me) here http://p5.sonarama.com/index.php?title=Dimension_Pro

Rapt is more of a synth, while dimension leans toward more sample type stuff (this is mainly a function of presets and sounds, tho samples and SFZ files can be read by either one).

Trying to emulate sounds working with synths is harder than it looks - kinda like emulating a guitarist's style.  I don't know how long it would take to learn, but it is something you can work on as you can.

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thanks a lot...