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2015/08/21 06:18:47
jpetersen
Some more info for those thinking of doing the update:
 
I have just spent 19 hours watching Win 10 install. Every time you think it's finally done, another stage starts.
 
1) There's a bunch of 3rd party (and Microsoft) software that you CANNOT UNINSTALL. Think Android phones.
 
2) The Windows 7 START menu is NOT back.
All that they have done is put the Win8 startpage icons in a popup above the Start button.
Instead of scrolling horizontally, you now scroll vertically.
 
3) Also, this stupid Internet Explorere Edge is correcting all my capitalization without asking. And it's not correct.
 
I shall be sticking with Windows 7 for as long as possible.
2015/08/21 06:55:58
djjhart@aol.com
I just did the upgrade , And Im not sure how some people are having problems , W10 downloaded in the back ground and was waiting for me to install. I clicked install, one time it asked me to press next then I stepped out for a 1/2 hour, came back and windows 10 was installed and ready to go.
 First order after installing is to go to device manager and see if you have all your drivers installed . Then its time to Enjoy the software .. I must say W10 seems so right . I loathed W8.. I most definitely see fasted boot times and a crisper overall experience . And my computer is over 8 years old .
2015/08/21 07:14:17
Grem
I had the same Win10 install experience. I clicked install and walked away to come back 45 minutes later to see my lock screen. Not a problem and no assistance needed. For me it was the best windows update ever.

Now that it's installed, I am really enjoying it. I think this is MS best roll out for sure.

If it was taking me 19hr to install anything, I would have gave up at 5hr. Something not right there.
2015/08/21 07:26:12
mrdrwest
jpetersen
Some more info for those thinking of doing the update:
 
I have just spent 19 hours watching Win 10 install. Every time you think it's finally done, another stage starts.
 
1) There's a bunch of 3rd party (and Microsoft) software that you CANNOT UNINSTALL. Think Android phones.
 
2) The Windows 7 START menu is NOT back.
All that they have done is put the Win8 startpage icons in a popup above the Start button.
Instead of scrolling horizontally, you now scroll vertically.
 
3) Also, this stupid Internet Explorere Edge is correcting all my capitalization without asking. And it's not correct.
 
I shall be sticking with Windows 7 for as long as possible.


You're sensationalizing.
 
There is a Windows 10 start menu: A new modern version.
 
Granted, some apps can't be removed. Do you know how to uninstall apps?
 
Are the apps/applications you can't uninstall interfering with your workflow?
 
Microsoft Edge is a work in progress: I'll concede to that. But your specific complaint is, IMO, whiny and exaggerated.
 
 
2015/08/21 10:11:19
AT
I just upgraded my "home" desktop (the one I write on and use for surfing Cakewalk.  It uses an atom processor, very slow, and the At&T connection and software are very iffy to be charitable.  But the Win10 upgrade went fine, and it all works fine.  A bit slow starting up this morning, and I ain't seen any noticeable improvement (yet!) in speed, but no big problems either.  And most of the screen works like you would expect.
 
Next step is to upgrade a Win8 I bought for possible live use to see if music drivers work and if it is worthwhile to upgrade my main rig.
 
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2015/08/21 10:37:51
jpetersen
This is my third attempt at a reply. Microsoft Edge refreshes this
forum page and wipes out everything I wrote.
 
The Autocorrection is a problem because I do business internationally
in several languages. But OK, I guess I'll just get Firefox.
 
My experience was definitely not click-and-forget.
 
I got the message that my install was ready at 4.30pm yesterday.
Clicked and the 2.7GB download took 3 hours.
 
There were several stages where I had to approve TaC's,
choose settings, etc. so my presence was required.
 
By 11am today finally all downloads, preparing-to-install,
further updates, that round thing counting down... were done.
 
But there are further downloads running in the background and I can see new apps appearing in the
start menu. Some I removed already but are being reinstalled.
 
Is the Windows start menu really new?
It is the Win 8 start screen in a popup.
The entries take up more screen real-estate
so removing unneeded apps would indeed benefit my workflow.
 
Is it modern?
My Windows 98 menu is compact and follows a single paradigma.
XP could revert to this and Win7 came close.
Oh, and it boots in 6 seconds and shuts down in 2.
(OK, it has an SSD).
 
Steven Sinofsky apparently had all code for the original
Start menu removed - lots of articles online discuss this.
 
> Do you know how to uninstall apps?
 
Right-click/Uninstall? But not many apps have this
Uninstall menu point, so no. I probably don't really.
 
Whatever happened to Control panel/Programs?
Do you know if it still exists?
 
CURSES! Now Microsoft Edge blanked the whole screen with a
message "We know you are probably getting bored watching this
refresh the whole time..."
So I am typing this for the 4th time.
 
Whine? Who, me?
2015/08/21 10:48:11
jpetersen
I guess my frustration is installing and relearning and in the end, all I do is start the same apps every morning and do the same work.
 
Nobody pays my time for all this.
 
Now I gotta sleep.
 
 
2015/08/21 11:44:10
John
The fix for the Edge is use another browser. I like Opera but Firefox or Chrome will do just fine. I also use Thunderbird for mail. 
 
All of the above are free and work very well indeed. I haven't use IE for many years.
 
There isn't that much to learn if you have been using Windows 8.1. Actually Windows 10 is so easy to use that I don't see a much of a learning curve. I did do some research on it while it was in preview. I don't believe that the average user needs to be worrying about having to relearn things.
 
The new start menu is a cross between Windows 7 start and Windows 8. Things are pretty much spelled out so its not as if you have to hunt down how to do things. Also there is a nice Get Started app to walk you through common tasks. 
 
Though this is not a Windows forum we can help those posting in the software forum with questions about it.
Windows 10 is the new OS for all devices. It would be a smart thing to get acquainted with it now rather than later to prepare oneself for the future. 
 
Microsoft is betting the farm on it. I believe it is a winner. No one can force one to adapt it but I believe it is wise to take a long look at it. 
2015/08/21 12:19:40
kevinwal
FWIW, Internet Explorer ships with 10 as well. Edge is a pain to use on a forum and they've stripped it down so much that it's confusing to use. I've switched to IE until the issues are hammered out.
2015/08/21 12:40:52
michael diemer
mrdrwest
jpetersen
Some more info for those thinking of doing the update:
 
I have just spent 19 hours watching Win 10 install. Every time you think it's finally done, another stage starts.
 
1) There's a bunch of 3rd party (and Microsoft) software that you CANNOT UNINSTALL. Think Android phones.
 
2) The Windows 7 START menu is NOT back.
All that they have done is put the Win8 startpage icons in a popup above the Start button.
Instead of scrolling horizontally, you now scroll vertically.
 
3) Also, this stupid Internet Explorere Edge is correcting all my capitalization without asking. And it's not correct.
 
I shall be sticking with Windows 7 for as long as possible.


You're sensationalizing.
 
There is a Windows 10 start menu: A new modern version.
 
Granted, some apps can't be removed. Do you know how to uninstall apps?
 
Are the apps/applications you can't uninstall interfering with your workflow?
 
Microsoft Edge is a work in progress: I'll concede to that. But your specific complaint is, IMO, whiny and exaggerated.
 
 


People have a right to complain, without being called "whiny." That is defensive and arrogant.
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