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2015/08/25 15:03:03
Doktor Avalanche
kennywtelejazz
When you say hang tight are you talking about the upgrade only ? or are you also giving the folks in the middle of your desktop picture a pep talk on how to climb  
 
 
Kenny
 


Or jump ;)
2015/08/25 15:04:32
kevinwal
kennywtelejazz
kevinwal
I'm on build 10525 which provides a look at some color customization abilities, so hang tight, it's coming to an update near you.
 

 
 

 
When you say hang tight are you talking about the upgrade only ? or are you also giving the folks in the middle of your desktop picture a pep talk on how to climb  
 
 
Kenny
 




Yes I am.
 
 
2015/08/25 15:06:18
Doktor Avalanche
michael diemer
Advertisers will also be glad you like cortana, because she's going to spread everything you do on your computer all over the internet.


At least the price of good porno may drop. Always a sunny side...
2015/08/25 15:15:17
michael diemer
kevinwal
The original question is, why upgrade to 10? To me that depends on the type of user you are.
 
There's a type of user for whom new technology, whether it's hardware or software, is not just another business activity, it's a major event. I call this kind of user The Enthusiast. Enthusiasts can't wait to get their hands on the latest shiny new gee-gaw, and spend hours poking around in and under the hood delightedly learning the fine new wrinkles the engineers have spun out of mere ideas.
 
To Enthusiasts, a new feature or a subtly wrought change to an existing capability is almost like a personal message from a software developer that says, "See how clever? See how elegant?" It's an appreciation of intellect, like a good story or a well-told joke, and provides more than sufficient motivation for the Enthusiast to adopt new technology long before more cautious users would consider such a move prudent. The Enthusiast is fully aware of the privacy considerations and the mandated update controversy and simply doesn't care.
 
These other users are more utilitarian in nature, and consider technology simply as a means to an end. Perhaps they run a business that depends upon a well-understood workflow with a stable infrastructure. Or perhaps they are by nature uninterested in the technological stories embraced by Enthusiasts. Whether or not they run a business, since they share the same mentality about technology, let's call them Businessmen.
 
Businessmen dread new software releases and question the value of every subtle deviation from the status quo and see these deviations, often correctly, as threats to their productivity. Sometimes Businessmen are simply not comfortable with technology in general, but often they are and are simply impatient with anything that impedes the accomplishment of The Mission (whatever that may be.) Pragmatism is the rule of the day for Businessmen. The privacy and updating issues are examined in the light of value received, and if the system provides enough value, these kinds of conditions are generally acceptable even if they are not terribly welcome.
 
To complete my gross over-simplification of the complex panoply of humanity that is the computer-using community, let's finally consider the Religionist. The Religionist views technology through an obscuring ideological haze that subtly alters the nature of reality. To the Religionist, the motive behind the production of technology is much more important than the actual technology.
 
Faced with an offering produced by talented engineers designed to delight their customers, they see an evil corporate plot cunningly crafted with the intent to enslave and deprive the masses of their... um, well, their whatever. Legitimate commerce is always seen as exploitation and enslavement, and the idea of consumer choice is considered a laughable charade to confuse the masses. This perspective is unassailable by any means currently known to man, however, it never prevents the Religionist from acquiring the latest technology, which they then commence complain about exhaustively. Religionists can often be recognized by the presence of a largely unused Linux distribution on a separate boot partition.
 
So, to the point of the thread, Why upgrade to Windows 10?
 
If you're an Enthusiast, the mere presence of Windows 10 is answer enough. You know what to do.
If you're a Businessman, the answer is, you probably shouldn't right now.
If you're a Religionist, the answer is to consider changing your medication.
 
Carry on.
 
 


What a load of insulting crap.
2015/08/25 15:19:09
kevinwal
michael diemer
kevinwal
The original question is, why upgrade to 10? To me that depends on the type of user you are.
 
There's a type of user for whom new technology, whether it's hardware or software, is not just another business activity, it's a major event. I call this kind of user The Enthusiast. Enthusiasts can't wait to get their hands on the latest shiny new gee-gaw, and spend hours poking around in and under the hood delightedly learning the fine new wrinkles the engineers have spun out of mere ideas.
 
 


What a load of insulting crap.



The intent was to be humorous and entertaining, sorry you did not find it to be so. Any resemblance to actual persons is entirely coincidental. And my use of a smiley absolves me of any guilt.
2015/08/25 17:39:39
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
Sonar X was extremely popular by the measure of units sold. I am absolutely sure its unpopularity resulted in the significant reduction in sales of X2, and hence, the sale to Gibson.
 
 
@kevinwal
Surprised by your response, given it was a description of practical experience that reinforced your premises.
 
 
2015/08/25 18:04:49
John
kevinwal
The original question is, why upgrade to 10? To me that depends on the type of user you are.
 
There's a type of user for whom new technology, whether it's hardware or software, is not just another business activity, it's a major event. I call this kind of user The Enthusiast. Enthusiasts can't wait to get their hands on the latest shiny new gee-gaw, and spend hours poking around in and under the hood delightedly learning the fine new wrinkles the engineers have spun out of mere ideas.
 
To Enthusiasts, a new feature or a subtly wrought change to an existing capability is almost like a personal message from a software developer that says, "See how clever? See how elegant?" It's an appreciation of intellect, like a good story or a well-told joke, and provides more than sufficient motivation for the Enthusiast to adopt new technology long before more cautious users would consider such a move prudent. The Enthusiast is fully aware of the privacy considerations and the mandated update controversy and simply doesn't care.
 
These other users are more utilitarian in nature, and consider technology simply as a means to an end. Perhaps they run a business that depends upon a well-understood workflow with a stable infrastructure. Or perhaps they are by nature uninterested in the technological stories embraced by Enthusiasts. Whether or not they run a business, since they share the same mentality about technology, let's call them Businessmen.
 
Businessmen dread new software releases and question the value of every subtle deviation from the status quo and see these deviations, often correctly, as threats to their productivity. Sometimes Businessmen are simply not comfortable with technology in general, but often they are and are simply impatient with anything that impedes the accomplishment of The Mission (whatever that may be.) Pragmatism is the rule of the day for Businessmen. The privacy and updating issues are examined in the light of value received, and if the system provides enough value, these kinds of conditions are generally acceptable even if they are not terribly welcome.
 
To complete my gross over-simplification of the complex panoply of humanity that is the computer-using community, let's finally consider the Religionist. The Religionist views technology through an obscuring ideological haze that subtly alters the nature of reality. To the Religionist, the motive behind the production of technology is much more important than the actual technology.
 
Faced with an offering produced by talented engineers designed to delight their customers, they see an evil corporate plot cunningly crafted with the intent to enslave and deprive the masses of their... um, well, their whatever. Legitimate commerce is always seen as exploitation and enslavement, and the idea of consumer choice is considered a laughable charade to confuse the masses. This perspective is unassailable by any means currently known to man, however, it never prevents the Religionist from acquiring the latest technology, which they then commence complain about exhaustively. Religionists can often be recognized by the presence of a largely unused Linux distribution on a separate boot partition.
 
So, to the point of the thread, Why upgrade to Windows 10?
 
If you're an Enthusiast, the mere presence of Windows 10 is answer enough. You know what to do.
If you're a Businessman, the answer is, you probably shouldn't right now.
If you're a Religionist, the answer is to consider changing your medication.
 
Carry on.
 
 


I didn't see this before. I can't be sure I wouldn't be a little insulted by it if I hadn't read the comment on it and the response. I think after reading the whole thing it is a wonderful posting that if it doesn't make one smile one should reconsider allowing themselves to be out in public!
 
Nicely written and a thank you from me for writing so well. I think you captured it wonderfully.  
2015/08/25 18:25:13
John T
Speaking as a businessman, by the above definition, I'll throw in this caveat: The sad reality of my life is that I spend very little time gazing at a glorious sunset, or the blush on the cheek of a fair maiden, or an endless starry sky. But I DO spend an incredibly large amount of time looking at Microsoft bloody Windows. So the upgrade was worth it just for something marginally different to look at, as I grind through yet another 15 hour work day.
2015/08/25 18:33:39
komposer
michael diemer
kevinwal
The original question is, why upgrade to 10? To me that depends on the type of user you are.
 
There's a type of user for whom new technology, whether it's hardware or software, is not just another business activity, it's a major event. I call this kind of user The Enthusiast. Enthusiasts can't wait to get their hands on the latest shiny new gee-gaw, and spend hours poking around in and under the hood delightedly learning the fine new wrinkles the engineers have spun out of mere ideas.
 
To Enthusiasts, a new feature or a subtly wrought change to an existing capability is almost like a personal message from a software developer that says, "See how clever? See how elegant?" It's an appreciation of intellect, like a good story or a well-told joke, and provides more than sufficient motivation for the Enthusiast to adopt new technology long before more cautious users would consider such a move prudent. The Enthusiast is fully aware of the privacy considerations and the mandated update controversy and simply doesn't care.
 
These other users are more utilitarian in nature, and consider technology simply as a means to an end. Perhaps they run a business that depends upon a well-understood workflow with a stable infrastructure. Or perhaps they are by nature uninterested in the technological stories embraced by Enthusiasts. Whether or not they run a business, since they share the same mentality about technology, let's call them Businessmen.
 
Businessmen dread new software releases and question the value of every subtle deviation from the status quo and see these deviations, often correctly, as threats to their productivity. Sometimes Businessmen are simply not comfortable with technology in general, but often they are and are simply impatient with anything that impedes the accomplishment of The Mission (whatever that may be.) Pragmatism is the rule of the day for Businessmen. The privacy and updating issues are examined in the light of value received, and if the system provides enough value, these kinds of conditions are generally acceptable even if they are not terribly welcome.
 
To complete my gross over-simplification of the complex panoply of humanity that is the computer-using community, let's finally consider the Religionist. The Religionist views technology through an obscuring ideological haze that subtly alters the nature of reality. To the Religionist, the motive behind the production of technology is much more important than the actual technology.
 
Faced with an offering produced by talented engineers designed to delight their customers, they see an evil corporate plot cunningly crafted with the intent to enslave and deprive the masses of their... um, well, their whatever. Legitimate commerce is always seen as exploitation and enslavement, and the idea of consumer choice is considered a laughable charade to confuse the masses. This perspective is unassailable by any means currently known to man, however, it never prevents the Religionist from acquiring the latest technology, which they then commence complain about exhaustively. Religionists can often be recognized by the presence of a largely unused Linux distribution on a separate boot partition.
 
So, to the point of the thread, Why upgrade to Windows 10?
 
If you're an Enthusiast, the mere presence of Windows 10 is answer enough. You know what to do.
If you're a Businessman, the answer is, you probably shouldn't right now.
If you're a Religionist, the answer is to consider changing your medication.
 
Carry on.
 
 


What a load of insulting crap.




Insulted because you are in one of his fictional groups or left out?
Best post on this forum in a long time. Very well written.
2015/08/25 18:34:35
John T
Joking aside, I think caution is good. I'm a long standing Windows ninja with a 25 year background in video game development, have been building my own computers for a couple of decades, find this stuff interesting, did all my homework and research ahead of time, and only upgraded after I was convinced it was going to be unproblematic for me. So I think I'm about half-way between enthusiast and pragmatist on this stuff. 
 
If you're not interested in messing around with configuring PCs, I'd say this: I think Win 10 is good, and I think we're all going to end up there sooner or later, but there's no reason to rush it. You can let idiots like me kick the tyres for you first. There are still 11 months of the free upgrade offer to go, so no rush at all.
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