Every dominant American data company has had to pony up to US.GOV, and that has become a major competitive disadvantage for American companies since the news came out about it. Further, it's also on record that they've all protested the demands of the feds, to no avail. They are doing what you or I would have to do in a similar situation. This isn't Google's or Apple's or MS's fault, it's the cost of doing their business. For now. :)

John
Please everyone this has been a very good thread without rancor. We can post our views without attacking anyone. 
 
Lets keep it that way. I would hate to lock this thread. 

I'll try to be good, I promise.

mettelus
Another issue for bandwidth consumption is that not all people have unlimited data usage plans. An OS blindly consuming bandwidth is a bit presumptuous (and they won't pay for folks going over data allowances). I have noticed increasingly worse internet throughput in the past 10 days, but can only speculate as to root cause (I am not on Win10).

I wonder what percentage of total bandwidth is consumed by Netflix and porn.

michael diemer
 
Here's why it's insulting: He disagrees with my point of view, and rather than accept my right to my point of view, he has to create these artificial categories, so that anyone who disagrees with him can neatly be put into whichever category he "belongs." This is clearly an attempt to marginalize and even ridicule people who may present controversial viewpoints, and is therefore disrespectful, and, indeed, insulting. I'm surprised the moderator missed this.

Ah, come on. He was making a joke. You're taking it far too seriously.

kevinwal
Every dominant American data company has had to pony up to US.GOV, and that has become a major competitive disadvantage for American companies since the news came out about it. Further, it's also on record that they've all protested the demands of the feds, to no avail. They are doing what you or I would have to do in a similar situation. This isn't Google's or Apple's or MS's fault, it's the cost of doing their business. For now. :)

Yup
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23285642

John
Hostess? 

Yes, you your highness. Why do you encourage this blather in the Sonar forum?

Maybe he believes in free speech? something increasingly under attack these days. Along with privacy. and so many here just blithely accept it. Like lemmings to the sea...I won't. I am transitioning to Linux, probably the only OS still relatively safe from prying eyes and ears and God knows what else (for my internet work, that is. Unfortunately Linux still has a ways to go as DAW host. But you can keep your music rig offline completely if you want). Go ahead, call me paranoid, I've been called that before. (Where's that guy who says it's time to stop labelling people)?

ampfixer

John
Hostess? 

Yes, you your highness. Why do you encourage this blather in the Sonar forum?

Its not that off topic considering Sonar has to run on something. As long as people keep their comments on the topic and not try to insult one another I see no reason to halt the discussion.
 
I am not a hostess. I am a host. It would be best to refer to me or any other host as such including the one female host. I am at a loss to understand your hostility here. 

Yeah, this is making no sense to me, either.
 
 

Thanks for posting that link. This is a great post you share. Notable things in the new Microsoft EULA show no shame on Microsoft's part in committing the invasion of one's privacy and manipulating another's private property as it suits them. I can understand being cautious to prevent terrorism, saving a life/s by uncovering some conspiracy, or taking action to prevent other types of wicked acts, but lots of stuff stated in that new EULA is just plain uncalled for and intrusive! Who's gonna prosecute them for such intrusiveness? I'm just shaking my head in disapproval.  What is the world coming to?
 

YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
 
A good reference for increasing privacy: (Do not use an MS account to log in to YOUR computer.) http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.1.html
 
 
From the EULA and privacy policy:
 
“Microsoft collects information about you, your devices, applications and networks, and your use of those devices, applications and networks. Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage.”
 
“We may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility” and “use voice input features like speech-to-text, we may collect voice information and use it for purposes such as improving speech processing.”
 
“If you open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes any use [of]it for purposes such as improving performance, or [if you]enter text, we may collect typed characters, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spell check features.”
 
"Sometimes you’ll need software updates to keep using the Services. We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices. You may also be required to update the software to continue using the Services. Such updates are subject to these Terms unless other terms accompany the updates, in which case, those other terms apply. Microsoft isn’t obligated to make any updates available and we don’t guarantee that we will support the version of the system for which you licensed the software."
 
 
"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to:
1. comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies;
2. protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;
3. operate and maintain the security of our services, including to prevent or stop an attack on our computer systems or networks; or
4. protect the rights or property of Microsoft, including enforcing the terms governing the use of the services - however, if we receive information indicating that someone is using our services to traffic in stolen intellectual or physical property of Microsoft, we will not inspect a customer's private content ourselves, but we may refer the matter to law enforcement."
 
(I think transparent title bars just increase clutter and thereby reduce efficiency.)