Hi,
would be in mid-measure. The metronome feature (as far as I can tell) will only allow you to generate a time signature at the beginning of a measure.
 
How do I generate a new time signature on beat number-2?
 
thanks

I don't fully understand your post but it sounds like you want your time signature to change in the middle of a measure and for the metronome to follow along.
 
That is not possible in music theory (AFAIK) because you cannot chop a bar in half and have it be the same time sig.
 
Example... if I chopped a 4/4 measure in half and half the last half in a different time sig but wanted to keep the first half as is then I would have to turn the first half of that measure into 2/4 time. Then I'd apply the new time signature to the following measure.
 
See how that works? Sonar can't go breaking the rules of theory like that. It wouldn't make sense.
 
However I've been wanting a "free time" time sig option that can be inserted. It's more complex than that but I'm not going to type of my reasoning and design idea right now. I've got tracks to write. lol
 
Cheers.

Thanks for the reply Beepster,
 
I'll be more clear: I'd like the metronome to follow the odd time measures.
 
The song begins in 4/4, and I set the metronome to 4/4....no problem. Then, the song shifts to 6/8, so at that point, I shifted to 6/8, again....no problem.
 
After 3 measures of 6/8, I want the song to go back to 4/4. Now we have a problem. Why? because, the 6/8 bars end in the middle of the standard time signature and my only option is at the beginning of a bar.
 
If you have time try this: set up a few bars of 4/4  on your metronome, then 3 bars of 6/8 and then go back to  4/4.
 
Let me know if you are successful  thanks
 

I agree. Where the time signature changes is by definition the beginning of a new measure. Also, beat 2 is only one beat into a measure, so you would need to create a 1:4 measure in order to put a new time signature on what was beat 2 previously.

kawika
Thanks for the reply Beepster,
 
I'll be more clear: I'd like the metronome to follow the odd time measures.
 
The song begins in 4/4, and I set the metronome to 4/4....no problem. Then, the song shifts to 6/8, so at that point, I shifted to 6/8, again....no problem.
 
After 3 measures of 6/8, I want the song to go back to 4/4. Now we have a problem. Why? because, the 6/8 bars end in the middle of the standard time signature and my only option is at the beginning of a bar.
 
If you have time try this: set up a few bars of 4/4  on your metronome, then 3 bars of 6/8 and then go back to  4/4.
 
Let me know if you are successful  thanks
 

Hi... I actually can't mess with this right now because I've got a project open I need to get finsihed up but as I said earlier you are going to need to figure out the math involved in splitting a 6/8 measure in half, then switch to 4/4.
 
So you need two time sig changes prgrammed in. The first to switch from 6/8 to whatever would split a 6/8 measure in half (I think it would be 3/8) THEN program in your 4/4 time sig.
 
I actually really suck at time sigs BUT I think 3/8 would do the job of creating the half measure of a 6/8 measure. The other (formally educated) doods could help more.
 
Also depending on the change back to 4/4 you may actually want to have a single 2/4 measure AFTER the 3/8 (or whatever it is) change in case the first measure of your new "4/4" is actually only a half measure. This would (might) avoid the rest of the 4/4 sequence having the first beat of each measure actually appear in the MIDDLE of each measure.
 
As I said... I suck a time sigs... but that because I suck at basic math (but can solve more complex equation type problems which is weird).
 
Just check that out and see if you can get it to work. It should if you can get that "half of 6/8" programmed in.
 
Cheers.

Thanks Beepster.   Brundelfly, your reply describes my problem, exactly. So.....what do I do? Any thoughts?

Thanks Beepster.   Brundelfly, your reply describes my problem, exactly. So.....what do I do? Any thoughts?

kawika
Thanks Beepster.   Brundelfly, your reply describes my problem, exactly. So.....what do I do? Any thoughts?

Try what I said with inserting one measure of 3/8 before you switch to 4/4.

Not knowing what the music actually sounds like, the question is how many total beats do you want to go by before you're you get back to the first full bar of 4/4? If I understand correctly that the first beat after the 3 measures of 6:8 isn't a downbeat, and you don't want an emphasized metronome click at that point, then probably you should make the last measure of 6:8 be 10:8, and just put up with the extra clicks.

Thanks Beepster but I need 18 eight notes ( 3 bars of 6/8). A measure of 3/8, anywhere, is not going to help. I'm surprised Sonar Platinum doesn't allow you to change time signatures wherever you want............but now I know.
 
I can just keep the subdivisions together in my head and explain it to others that will be recording.
 
thanks.