Yea Brundlefly....now I know: it is a matter of "putting up with it." I can work around it. I wasn't sure I needed to but...Oh well
 
thanks! 

kawika
Thanks Beepster but I need 18 eight notes ( 3 bars of 6/8). A measure of 3/8, anywhere, is not going to help. I'm surprised Sonar Platinum doesn't allow you to change time signatures wherever you want............but now I know.
 
I can just keep the subdivisions together in my head and explain it to others that will be recording.
 
thanks.

Okay... this is bending my brain. If you need 3 full measures of 6/8 then a change to 4/4... then what's the half measure supposed to be?
 
I was going on the assumption you needed (something like) 2 and a half measures of 6/8 which (I think) would be 2 measures of 6/8 then one measure of 3/8.
 
What is the last half measure supposed to be?
 
And Sonar doesn't make it impossible. The math of Time Sigs makes it impossible... which is why I personally would like a "free time" option myself and some kind of extra fancy tap tempo calculator that registers two signals instead of one (so you can tap the beats AND measures then have the program solve the time sig automagically).
 
 

No....I need 3 measures of 6/8.
 
The "half measure" shouldn't be there. That's where I want to go back to 4/4.
 
I disagree with your statement: "The math of Time Sigs makes it impossible".
 
"One" can and does change,  with songs that have multiple time sig changes. Sonar's metronome is not yet sophisticated enough to allow for this very musical phenomenon. There is probably a lot of programming involved ( IDK)....but perhaps in the future they can set it up so that you can plug in a new new time sig at your "Now Time".....For example, It would look like this 8:3.
 

Oh... wait... so is the problem that there is a "Count In" to the new time sig?
 
If that's the issue I think you can program the metronome to not have any count in measures.
 
I've actually never bothered messing with mid song Time Sig changes (but need to at some point) so I'm not sure what happens.
 
Anyway... the simple solution is (no matter what the problem is) to just create a click track using MIDI/softsynths. I do that quite often and actually all my count ins are that set up because I despise the way count in works (in general).
 
Good luck.
 
Edit: And now I'm seeing that I was making the assumption it was a half measure when you are saying "beat #2". That math is beyond me but I'm sure it's possible somehow.
 
So that would be 6/8 x 3 + 1 beat of (what you would want to be) 6/8 THEN the time change to 4/4.
 
But that begs the question... what time sig is Beat 1 supposed to be?
 
Would a measure of 1/4 or 1/8 be the answer? I don't even know if that's possible but it sounds like you need ONE beat of something for 1 measure.
 
Meh...

If it's about where the emphasized clicks are, you might just want to record the click, and then cut and paste together what you want to hear as a click track.

Oh and there is "insert beat/measure at Now Time" but I don't know how that would apply here because I seriously don't understand what you are attemtping.
 
Set Now Time > Right Click on the Time Ruler > Insert Beat/Measure At Now...
 
Or something like that. Been years since I used it.

If you are only changing metronome settings, and playing to that while the Sonar project itself is still in some other time signature, then that would explain the half-measure that shouldn't be thing, if I understand things correctly. (I have never tried that, so if you cannot even do that I apologize).
 
I write in multiple time signatures all the time in Sonar, and I do an insert Meter change at the beginning of whatever measure I want the altered meter, keep it that way until finished with that time signature, then simply insert a new Meter change at the beginning of the measure where I want the new time signature to be.  I don't ever have any measures end up as partially used - half measures - because each measure is exactly as long as I need it to be.
 
The insert Meter change appears under: Project>Insert Meter/Key Change, and you can tell it which measure you want the meter change to be in.  Sonar will then stay in the new meter until either the project ends, OR another meter change is inserted.
 
Does that help?  Or, should I go have some more coffee and start again? :)
 
Bob Bone
 

No Bob....looks like I need the coffee. I apologize to you, and the repliers especially brundlefly. What I was hearing in my head was 3/8 and not 6/8. I had the metronome first-beat accent off.  When I turned it on I realized my error. Everything is fine now. User error.  thanks again