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2016/01/11 15:55:03
gadeuvall2000
I'm a Sonar X3 user that just recently lost all my eyesight.  I've been battling Glaucoma all my life, and all I ever done was record and play music.  ANyways, I'm looking for a budget-friendly control surface that will allow me to have basic control over Sonar's functions.  VST control would be nice, but not too major, seeing as I don't use a whole lot of them.   One that comes to mind is the Behringer BCF-2000, but not sure if that'd do what I'm looking for.  Some of the basic functions I'm looking into are:

Faders with memory
Panning
Mute/Solo/Arm
P;ay/Pause/Record
Ease of selections of tracks
Marker seeking so I can go to certain points of the project
 
Things like this would be helpful.  IF anyone has any ideas of something that'd work along thelines of this, please let me know.  Thank you so much!
2016/01/11 16:12:24
Leadfoot
The Presonus Faderport will do everything you mentioned for $129.00 or so. The only limitation is that it only has one motorized fader.
2016/01/11 17:09:43
azslow3
May be you already know that, but accessible solutions for Sonar are still 8.5 version only. Both are JAWS http://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/Blindness/JAWS based, one is free http://www.jsonar.org/ another is payed http://www.dancingdots.com/main/index.htm
 
About surfaces. The only known to me specialized solution at the moment is for Novation LounchKey. http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,245.0.html . It is for MK1 version, very small modification required for MK2. Marker audition is not in that preset, but that can be added. I can remotely help with installation and preset adaptation for your needs. The plug-in and preset are free. It is SAPI5 based and work with any Sonar.
 
2016/01/11 18:14:35
gadeuvall2000
Jaws only works with 8.5.  I already looked into all that.  I use NVDA (Non-Visual Desktop Access).   SO what's the Novation Launch Key like?  Is it an O Screen controller  ALso, wonder if I'd be able to read it.
2016/01/11 23:51:49
gadeuvall2000
I can't find the link on that page that they're talking about, however, I did find the  other file that they mentioned.  Do I need to be logged in, for I don't have an account there. 
2016/01/12 02:14:27
azslow3
There is some problem with my site at the moment. I have informed my provider. No registration required when it works.
 
LaunchKey is just normal MIDI controller, without motorized faders, with keys. The preset for my plug-in was configured to use TTS to audition transport, tracks, parameter names and values and so on. So you get informed what is going on directly from the controller.
 
The preset was constructed for one particular user, for his needs and controller he had. We can do the same for your controller of choice and for your preferences.
2016/01/12 07:27:19
gadeuvall2000
SO, what you're describing, is basically that this is a control surface mapped to keyboard controls via my general PC keyboard, with TTS output?   FYI, I do run Windows 10 Pro.   Would this also work in parallel with a hardware-based controller?  EG: if I bought one, it'd verbally tell me what I'm doing with my hardware?  That'd be a bigplus.  
 
If it helps to understand some of the VST's I use are:
"onboard" ones EG: LP- compressor, etc
Superior Drummer 2
Guitar Rig 5
Absynth 5
Izotope Ozone 5
I'm thinking of doing away with GR5, and I don't need to use Superior Drummer, but I'd like to really, sounds better than my Vexed TD-15.
2016/01/12 08:27:50
azslow3
My plug-in is for hardware controllers. From user perspective it work as controller driver inside Sonar. It is sufficiently flexible to not only execute all available in Sonar for Control Surfaces functions but it can also send arbitrary text to TTS build-in into Windows. The text can contain any information available for such plug-ins in text, for example track names, markers, parameter names, values. Hardware button and arbitrary combinations of buttons on controller can be configured to trigger that information sending, for example button X plus button solo from some strip can trigger information like "Guitar solo", "Guitar mute" or simply "Guitar" depending either the track with name "Guitar" is soloed, muted or not. Another information source comes from Sonar state changes, for example Sonar transport can be tracked, producing corresponding TTS statements even when you use computer keyboard to start/stop playing.
 
Control Surface can operate within plug-ins automatable parameters only. Unfortunately, not all VSTi parameters are available for automation. When available, preset can send to TTS particular parameter name as well as the value.
 
I do not have listed plug-ins, so I can not produce good ACT mapping for them on my own. But we can do this together with TeamViewer. I guess we need it for initial setup in any case.
 
As I wrote, I have ready to use preset with TTS for LaunchKey MK1 only. But we can make any MIDI controller function the same way. If you already have some device or can get it, I can configure it so you understand how that is going to work. You can decide then which controller you need, I mean in terms of number of controls and quality vs the price. For TTS in is good to have many buttons which are easy to find. BCF2000 has quite some buttons, but it has no dedicated transport section and all buttons are the same. It is motor faders but they are not touch sensitive. Also I am not sure that endless encoders is the best choice in your case since unlike with normal knobs it is not possible to feel current position. On the other hand you can always modify parameter from its position and not from hardware position of the knob, I think that depends on personal preferences. Launchkey has 8+1 strip buttons, 18 pads (2 round), transport section and track switching buttons, but that is a bad choice in case you are not going to use its normal keys.
 
PS My site is up again.
2016/01/12 08:56:20
gadeuvall2000
Do you have a recommended controller?  Something that's not too expensive? 
2016/01/12 12:32:17
gadeuvall2000
I still don't see the link for the plugin download.  I see all the descriptions and the instructions, but no download link.  Maybe NVDA is not reading it?  Who knows, but nonetheless, I have EZController installed, but not the plugin.  Also, I am considering getting the  Presonus Fader Port just so I can work, until I can save up to afford something like the Behringer X-Touch or something along those lines.    
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