I was spending part of a band meeting last night explaining why re-arranging songs is slow (and being told why it's apparently a lot easier in Logic, but I digress) and one thing hit me - assuming all Sonar's crazy selection problems were fixed and/or I find a workaround, one other thing stops me from dragging sections around in Sonar - the markers. I use markers to designate verses, choruses, different sections, etc - but they can't be dragged with clips. I can cut and paste them, but that's not as convenient as dragging. And they can be dragged, but they have to be dragged separately from the clips.
 
This was making me seriously consider ditching markers and using 'marker clips' instead, i.e. a silent clip with the name of the section written in it. Then I realised that I make heavy use of the functionality to move transport from marker to marker, and the functionality to scroll through the marker list. So that's out.
 
What do people think? Does this bother anybody else? Is there support for including a marker in a lasso selection (and if so, under what circumstances)?

Seems like a valid feature request kind of thing.   Since that would be a kind of 'copy special' maybe you could request that the default for copy and cut be a configurable thing made from the already available check boxes you get with copy special. 

Yes. An arrange mode would be very welcome addition and I believe it has been already wished in the feature request forum.

Here's hoping some kind of arrangement feature is in the pipeline - hints have been dropped that the spring lineup will be teased soon. I have always used markers heavily and I'm experimenting with marker clips these days, but you're right that some kind of relationship between the two would be handy - maybe if markers could as an option be locked to a given clip start as opposed to a particular spot on the timeline it would be useful...

No mention of anything at all to help arrangement in today's big announcement for future features. :( I suspect I'm going to be trying Studio One soon because arrangement is how I spend 90% of my time and Sonar has just made that harder rather than easier over the years.

There are many things pestering me in hindsight of this year, and as they linger the S1 crossgrade appeal is gaining momentum. I definitely agree the investment of time makes things harder but generic functionality should be flawless.

Just a review of the features forum upsets me enough that I hid it on my phone.

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There are many things pestering me in hindsight of this year, and as they linger the S1 crossgrade appeal is gaining momentum. I definitely agree the investment of time makes things harder but generic functionality should be flawless.

Just a review of the features forum upsets me enough that I hid it on my phone.

I switched a few months back, took advantage of the crossgrade pricing, and to be honest having been a Cakewalk user since Pro Audio days, the switch was a breeze, it just felt natural to me, some things a bit different, but still easy, and I actually prefer the way they do those things. Just love the features in S13 like the arranger track and the scratch pads and much more. I can honestly say that there is nothing I miss from Sonar, but if I were to switch back to Sonar from S13 there would be a LOT I would miss.
 
It's as solid as a rock, haven't had one crash or problem, didn't really have a problem with Sonar, although a few crashes here and there, I can get things done much faster and easier, with less of those 'moments', just love it, it just clicked with me. I have found it noticeably less CPU, resource hungry, I had a thread here recently about performance issues with Lexington after I upgraded just to check in and try it out, and with an identical project in Platinum I get clicks and pops and farts, but can expand that project in S13 or Reaper quite considerably and have Zero issues. I still keep an eye on Sonar, and use Cakewalk instruments like Dim Pro, Rapture, Rapture Pro and Z3TA+2, and I just got another 12 months membership for Platinum, and if it ever gets stuff like an arranger track and scratch pads and a few other desirable feature that S13 has I'll check it out and evaluate where I am at, but as it stands now for me it's S13 hands down, love it.

What registration system does it use? Offline for non-online studios? Does it need a Copy protection dongle?

Both and No

289 € Crossgrade @ Thomann, Germany.
Sounds OK.