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2016/01/13 16:25:57
jpetersen
Assuming I have understood what "Add Track Flyout" does, I appeal to the bakers to catch these issues before release.
 
1. If I have a 100-track project, and track 3 is highlighted, and I use "Add Track Flyout" to add a track, I would want the track to be added UNDER the currently selected track, not way down at the bottom as track number 101.
 
2. If I have highlighted the last track in a folder and I use "Add Track Flyout", I would want the track to be added UNDER the currently selected track INSIDE the folder, not outside the folder (or, if there is another folder underneath, not as the first track of the next folder).
 
Issue 1 reflects the problem we have today with Insert Track.
 
Issue 2 reflects the issue we had with Clone Track, until the little code segment was added which, after the cloned track hs been incorrectly placed, then goes and fishes the cloned track out of the wrong position and back into the folder. In other words, the initial misplacement is still there.
2016/01/13 23:08:50
tenfoot
jpetersen
Assuming I have understood what "Add Track Flyout" does, I appeal to the bakers to catch these issues before release.
 
1. If I have a 100-track project, and track 3 is highlighted, and I use "Add Track Flyout" to add a track, I would want the track to be added UNDER the currently selected track, not way down at the bottom as track number 101.
 
2. If I have highlighted the last track in a folder and I use "Add Track Flyout", I would want the track to be added UNDER the currently selected track INSIDE the folder, not outside the folder (or, if there is another folder underneath, not as the first track of the next 




I have just tested this in Lexington and the add tracks already works this way (though it inserts the new track above rather than below the selected track). It also inserts the track  intra folder if the selected track is contained within a folder.
 
Check your screensets - having old locked screensets in projects saved in previous versions of Sonar can sometimes mess with this.
 
It is always good form  to post a question rather than declare a problem to ensure the issue is cakewalks and not your own.
2016/01/14 07:01:49
jpetersen
I'd edited down my original posting for brevity. It lost clarity. Here's the preamble to #1.
 
If one inserts a track,
99% of the time one would want it UNDER the selected track.
1% of the time one would want it ABOVE the selected track.
0% of the time one would want it down at the bottom. (well, let's say very rarely)
 
Edit:
A. If I insert with the Insert key, I get the 0% option.
B. If I insert with right-click/Insert Audio Track, I get the 1% option.
 
I just noticed this different behavior now because I usually use method A.
Why are they different? Most likely there's near-identical code in the two events
handling the menu and the hotkey, instead of having one single method being called from both.
 
Anyway, my appeal to the Bakers is to have a look since they plan to work on this area of the code anyway.
 
2016/01/14 09:25:48
robert_e_bone
I would suggest you pose this in the Features forum, where folks rate/vote on it, and is where the Cakewalk indicates they like to see such requests.
 
Bob Bone
2016/01/14 11:04:47
jpetersen
Done.
2016/01/14 11:16:39
kevinwal
Good call on raising the issue, well described. Even I understood what you were after.
2016/01/14 11:21:45
tenfoot
That does make more sense - but I am not sure whether this is really a 'problem' or an intended behaviour that you personally don't happen to like. Bob's suggestion of a feature request is probably your best recourse.
2016/01/14 13:57:55
Atsuko
jpetersen
I'd edited down my original posting for brevity. It lost clarity. Here's the preamble to #1.
 
If one inserts a track,
99% of the time one would want it UNDER the selected track.
1% of the time one would want it ABOVE the selected track.
0% of the time one would want it down at the bottom. (well, let's say very rarely)
 
Edit:
A. If I insert with the Insert key, I get the 0% option.
B. If I insert with right-click/Insert Audio Track, I get the 1% option.
 
I just noticed this different behavior now because I usually use method A.
Why are they different? Most likely there's near-identical code in the two events
handling the menu and the hotkey, instead of having one single method being called from both.
 
Anyway, my appeal to the Bakers is to have a look since they plan to work on this area of the code anyway.
 


In my opinion, inserting ABOVE is better because it's easier when you want to insert a track #1. How do you do it when you want it in the first position if it inserted under the selected track?
2016/01/14 14:00:13
Atsuko
I can answer myself: you'd had to insert under track #1, then, move it to the first position - 2 actions!  Above, it's only 1.
 
2016/01/14 14:28:43
jpetersen
In the Flyout, add the option "Above" or "Below", I think the Clone Track function already has this.
And perhaps Shift/Alt/Ctr+Insert for the hotkey variant (not sure which combination is free, am not at my DAW).
 
But stacking tracks backwards just to satisfy this corner case means more mouse clicks for the everyday case.
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