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  • M-Audio Keystation 88ES has transposed and....
2015/12/26 00:28:26
MelodicJimmy
I tried doing what the manual said and now the intonation is completely off.  Like, it's the "right" note, but it's like a quarter tone off.  I don't get it.  Any ideas?
2015/12/26 00:33:23
Vastman
hard reset.  I have a Keystation Pro 88...while it is old, it's 1000 mult-function buttons, dials, banks, button button combos, etc have wigged out on me more than a few times.  This solves  problem s for me.
 
I'll keep my fingers xrossed for ya!
 
the manuals can be googled... The Pro is way different than the es
2015/12/26 00:36:18
orangesporanges
Don't have an 88 ES, but almost every synth  or controller I've ever used has a fine tune, either wi a 0 -128 value or in cents. check to make sure that's centerd , if you have such a thing.
2015/12/26 00:43:27
MelodicJimmy
Wow, update.  My entire computer (the laptop in my signature) is playing EVERYTHING too fast, like a whole step.  I just went on You Tube..... played my guitar along with "Enter Sandman," whole step off!  WTF!  Reinstalling my interface drivers now.... stay tuned.....
2015/12/26 00:48:19
MelodicJimmy
Ok, reinstalling the driver fixed it.  WTF, that was annoying!
2015/12/26 00:56:31
MelodicJimmy
Ok, what the flying hell.... nope, still screwed up.  It was fine when I powered the laptop back on after reinstalling the driver.  Went to track some keys with the keystation.... completely different key than I recorded it.  Like a whole step off. 
 
ANY IDEAS?
2015/12/26 01:16:17
orangesporanges
sampling rate possibly? See if that changes once you start play back. I had an issue where a device tried to change the sampling rate from 44.1 to 48 That caused everything  to playback fast.
2015/12/26 01:20:52
MelodicJimmy
Ok, so I fixed the issue with the entire computer playing too fast and I have now fixed the issue with the Keystation playing the wrong note, which was my original question. 
 
So, here's something else that's related:  This is the second time this has happened.... my most recent project completely changed tempos and, as a result, the whole project is now almost a whole step down from where it should be.  (should be G major, playing in F major). 
 
Anyone know what's going on? 
2015/12/26 01:21:40
MelodicJimmy
oh and the sampling rate is what it should be, 44. 
2015/12/26 04:59:43
robert_e_bone
The thing to check with checking Sample Rate is to see if the Sample Rate is set within the user interface for the Audio Interface to the same Sample Rate that is set within the Sonar project.
 
IF one or the other is different than the other one, then you can very well have things play back either too sharp or too flat - such as one being 44.1 k and the other at 48 k.
 
Another thing to check is whether or not the loaded SOUND that the M-Audio Keystation 88 ES is triggering uses the Mod Wheel to control some aspect of the sound.  I used to have a similar issue in projects that used a particular synth preset for a particular synth (Native Instruments Reaktor 5).
 
I don't recall ever figuring out why things were goofy, but it had something to do with the mod wheel, and if I changed the Sonar Preferences option to NOT zero out all controllers when playback stopped, the issue would stop presenting itself - the issue was that for some reason, the Reaktor 5 sound would load up and play, but for some reason would change pitch down exactly one whole step.  If I closed the project and loaded it back, it would fix it to play the notes back at the right pitch.  DROVE ME NUTS.
 
I happen to have and love that same Keystation 88 ES controller, and I don't find there to be much at all in the area of it having many things it actually controls (unlike my M-Audio AxiomPro 61, which has all kinds of faders and knobs and performance controlling functionality), so it seems quite unlikely for the Keystation 88 ES to actually be causing whatever issues you are having.
 
Perhaps you can explain more about what synth and preset you are controlling with the Keystation controller, as maybe it is something as simple to fix, like tweaking a Sonar preference or the preset.
 
Bob Bone
 
 
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