Anderton
kennywtelejazz
Why is it not OK to start a thread because you feel frustrated and you want to tap out ?
Consider the recent thread "Don't Like SONAR Professional," which started from a very negative standpoint. People came up with potential solutions. The OP tried them. Several pages of posts later, he changed the title to "Success!! - Thanks to the Forum."
He came here because he was frustrated and wanted to vent...but then he ended up finding out what he needed to do to make SONAR purr. And, his experience will be helpful to others who see the thread, encounter the same problems, and now know how to fix them.
To me, that thread contributed to the forum owing to the OP's willingness to persevere. Not everyone wants to do that. Some people just want something that's plug-and-play, and that's fine too. I'd love a sports car but I drive a VW because I want a car that's plug-and-play. SONAR is where I get my sports car fix.
I have to say that I agree with you 100%
I remember that thread you mentioned .My feelings were empathetic towards the growing pains the OP was going through . He got through the other side of his learning curve .Also found myself learning something from what the people that were supporting his growth were telling him.
In your new thread about Win 10 I was gonna mention how much I hated Win 8 . I didn't say anything there about it there because it was not my intention to come off like a Debby Downer ...
I hated Win 8 so much it nearly drove me clear out of here , After almost a year of suffering with 8 I wound up starting a thread where I mentioned the idea of bringing my computer to the range and pumping a few clips of things that go boom into it ...At that time it was only because I took that risk to be vulnerable and state how frustrated I felt at the time a lot of people helped me diagnose and configure aspects of my computer to get it to the point where it was as optimized as it could be for what it was ...
FWIW , I was blaming SONAR ,yet the truth was it was my computer that needed to be dialed in not SONAR .
(just some personal introspection type of views on asking for help )
I have noticed the tendency in alpha male type personality's to revert to the archetype stereotype of not being able to ask for help and directions no matter how long and lost they may be . Our somewhat dysfunctional society outside of these forums is not really all that supportive of a person exposing themselves in such a way where they are not in full control ,
IMHO, it goes against the unwritten rules of the male locker room ....
It just may happen to be a part of human nature to have the tendency to misdirect the energy and lash out as a form of asking for help in an acceptable way that makes sense to the person who has not fully developed the coping skills to simply accept that they may be stuck .
Been there myself and eventually got tired the whole emotional self inflicted run around ..
A mentor / friend used to tell me " K.....you can't shake hands with a closed fist " ...
as simple as that may sound , I've been working on that one for about a decade and a half .
Oftentimes it may take a more evolved person who contains a solid foundation of knowledge they have gained from many years of experience to just be present and willing to read between the lines to compensate for the person that needs the extra help and guidance . When that closed fist eventually gets opened the type of evolved person I just mentioned always seemed to be waiting in the wings ready to grab the open hand and offer guidance based on real world experience ...
I happen to like the VW car example, my fist experiences driving were with a VW Super Beetle .Very fun car to drive. ...
Yes I do get the whole SONAR sports car fix thing ... even at my level it is an exhilarating ride when it clicks and I can find the zone.
nice talking with you ,
Kenny