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  • Sonar - Set "Now Time" far beyond end of project --- seems to upset playback
2015/12/19 09:41:19
williamcopper
Peculiar issue -- if you accidentally set Now Time far out, it can have bad effects on playback and response.   Happens occasionally if a fat-fingered keystroke changes   bar 400 to bar 4000.
 
2015/12/19 10:26:37
John
I have never played back way beyond the end of a song. I guess I never thought there was anything to play there except silence. If you seem unable to control what your fingers do W will get you back to the start. 
2015/12/19 11:52:39
brundlefly
I can't replicate a problem starting playback after measure 4000 with Stop at Project End disabled. With it enabled, the project rewinds before starting playback. So do you have Stop at Project End enabled or disabled, and what does "bad effects on playback and response" mean?
2015/12/19 13:10:33
williamcopper
A simple observation --- in an ordinary, but full, project, an accidental assignment of now time way past the end of the project cause odd behaviour --- a good long time (many seconds) to recover normal behaviour.     Yes, pushing play will go back to the beginning, yes, so will using the rewind shortcut, but neither work as expected and as normal playback had been working before the accidental now time assignment.  
 
Please don't try to criticize it, misdirect it, or minimize it.  Just let it stand as a user's observation, for what it's worth.
2015/12/19 13:38:37
ampfixer
You should be a beta tester for Cakewalk because you do things I'd never imagine doing, and on a regular basis to boot. Seriously, it might help them and feed your desire to find issues that need fixing.
2015/12/19 13:46:39
williamcopper
Something like this is not a 'desire to find issues', it is more a 'desire to identify issues' when they arise, regardless how.   But thanks for the kudos!     For these past several months, I've also been nearly a full time user of Sonar, maybe 60 hours a week -- so issues do arise. 
2015/12/19 14:02:49
Beepster
williamcopper
A simple observation --- in an ordinary, but full, project, an accidental assignment of now time way past the end of the project cause odd behaviour --- a good long time (many seconds) to recover normal behaviour.     Yes, pushing play will go back to the beginning, yes, so will using the rewind shortcut, but neither work as expected and as normal playback had been working before the accidental now time assignment.  
 
Please don't try to criticize it, misdirect it, or minimize it.  Just let it stand as a user's observation, for what it's worth.




Sounds to me like you screwed up your computer/project/session by doing something dumb.
 
When I do dumb things that overpower the system I get wacky behavior as well.
 
When I do dumb things like that I don't blame Sonar. I revert back to an earlier version of the project (if necessary) then avoid doing that dumb thing in the future.
 
You are dredging for problems and you cannot blame people for calling you out on it.
 
Alex (who unfortunately went off the rails and got banninated) used to test Sonar extensively to find bugs but he was honest about it, kept a log, reported the issues and did it all in a transparent fashion that led to many issues resolved and the new Problem Reports sub forum.
 
What you are doing is unscientific kvetching and quite likely trolling.
 
You are not helping anything. You are wasting valuable forum members time that could be spent helping people who ACTUALLY need it and flooding Google searches with false "bug + Sonar" results.
 
This has been brought up to you MANY times. Cut it out.
2015/12/19 14:26:49
John
williamcopper
A simple observation --- in an ordinary, but full, project, an accidental assignment of now time way past the end of the project cause odd behaviour --- a good long time (many seconds) to recover normal behaviour.     Yes, pushing play will go back to the beginning, yes, so will using the rewind shortcut, but neither work as expected and as normal playback had been working before the accidental now time assignment.  
 
Please don't try to criticize it, misdirect it, or minimize it.  Just let it stand as a user's observation, for what it's worth.


When anything is posted it is open to criticism or remedy or a fix. Most posters are here because they are looking for answers and help in finding those answers. I really don't know what is "expected behavior" when something bazaar is done and by accident to boot. Most people would correct the error they did and move on. Reporting it is useful if it is truly reported to improve the software. Its not so helpful when it can be seen as pilling on; pilling on criticism after criticism. It also has the side effect of the boy that cried wolf to often. People don't care what is found by the crier after awhile.  
 
I guess behavior of the poster over time begins to form a pattern that people see better and come to conclusions about. A balanced view without the commentary may go a long way in making such posters find a better reception. I have seen members try to explain this to you and it seems to fall on deaf ears. You haven't breached the CoC as far as I can tell thus you are free to post as you like. However, your influence here is slowing being eroded by the way you post. 
 
I hope that others are able to not post in response except in ways that might help solve the many problems you seem to have. No one should attack you for they will then be in breach of the CoC.  
 
2015/12/19 14:28:33
ampfixer
Come on Beeps, it's Christmas. Why not give the benefit of the doubt. Willy does come up with actual issues when doing his work and should bring those issues into the light. We may all benefit from his discoveries one day. 
2015/12/19 14:48:29
Beepster
ampfixer
Come on Beeps, it's Christmas. Why not give the benefit of the doubt. Willy does come up with actual issues when doing his work and should bring those issues into the light. We may all benefit from his discoveries one day. 




I do not deny he does stumble across some legit issues in his travels. I've confirmed a few of them myself. I just think his approach is rather supect, combative and dishonest.
 
This is why I consider him a "dredger". He scours the program for any tiny little thing that COULD be construed as undesirable behavior then blows it up to be a massive, work impeding "b*g".
 
Often times he simply is making mistakes in procedure or logic or not understanding how the program works.
 
When he DOES discover an actual bug trying to get reproduceable steps from him or even a proper description of the issue is like pulling teeth. He then refuses to report it (usually), slags Sonar (usually) and forum members (often times) and acts like he's "helping".
 
I have however rarely seen him extend a helping hand to another user and the few times it seems like he is it is usually attached to some kind of dig at Sonar or other users.
 
It should also be noted that although I am not a Xtian and don't really observe Xmas I am not a heartless scrooge so Happy Christmas ya'll... even Willie...
 
but it's only the 19th.... lulz.
 
Peace.
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