• SONAR
  • Sonar - Set "Now Time" far beyond end of project --- seems to upset playback (p.2)
2015/12/19 14:53:06
John
Right we have some time left.
 
 
2015/12/19 15:16:52
Beepster
John
Right we have some time left.



Merry Festivus, old friend!
 
...and now for the raising of the traditional aluminum pole.
2015/12/19 15:25:39
John
You too Beep. Good to see you. 
2015/12/19 17:54:15
ampfixer
Regardless of religious orientations, I consider Christmas time the best excuse to be nice to others. I'm a diabetic but I don't begrudge people enjoying a candy cane. 
2015/12/19 19:39:02
Anderton
It's not really surprising that an unexpected output results from an unexpected input.
 
For example, here's a reproducible bug: Have SONAR set up so there's no interface output it recognizes, e.g., you're using an internal WDM-only sound card but have preferences set to ASIO. Now drag a groove clip into a track and render it. SONAR will add silence at the beginning.
 
I reported it to Cakewalk, but don't consider it a bug because doing edits in a system where you can't hear what SONAR is doing seems kind of pointless. I'd much rather have CW prioritize fixing issues that impact operations done under normal circumstances, not issues that result from people doing dumb things. 
2015/12/19 20:34:34
Anderton
Beepster
What you are doing is unscientific kvetching and quite likely trolling.
 
You are not helping anything. You are wasting valuable forum members time that could be spent helping people who ACTUALLY need it and flooding Google searches with false "bug + Sonar" results.
 
This has been brought up to you MANY times. Cut it out.

 
Beepster, I think I know what bothers you, and williamcopper is not alone in these traits: An unjustified presumption of infallibility, combined with mean-spirited comments about the competence of Cakewalk's developers. But paradoxically, he sticks with SONAR - and presumably because he gets deeper into it than other programs, is not aware that the degree of issues he encounters is par for the course with all but the simplest programs. Also paradoxically, he's a power user on one level yet is also unaware of extremely basic program functionality (like the ProChannel having a global bypass button).
 
I agree with Ampfixer that in theory, he would make a good beta tester because he's exploring the outer reaches of the program, but unfortunately linguisitic clarity is not his strong point, so many of the threads he starts about "bugs" require lots of back-and-forth to figure out what he's talking about, and whether it is actually a real bug, a lack of understanding of the program, or simply behavior that is not what he expects.
 
However, from time to time he comes up with useful insights, even if they are packaged in a way that's insulting to Cakewalk and have at least the appearance of being self-aggrandizing. He probably won't change, so I suggest you either accept who he is and appreciate that at least he uses the program in challenging ways, or block his messages so your blood pressure stays within an acceptable range.
 
To quote Darth Vader (given that Yoda is participating in this thread, it's the least I can do): "If he could be turned, he would be a powerful ally." Turning would simply mean a little more humility, and refraining from insulting the dedicated people who work for the company that hosts this forum.
2015/12/20 00:55:36
Paul P
Anderton
I reported it to Cakewalk, but don't consider it a bug because doing edits in a system where you can't hear what SONAR is doing seems kind of pointless. I'd much rather have CW prioritize fixing issues that impact operations done under normal circumstances, not issues that result from people doing dumb things. 



I (really) appreciate your independance towards Cakewalk, but if something is possible, some poor soul will stumble upon it and spend a weekend wondering what the heck is going on.  So whether or not a situation is unlikely or dumb, a producer must strive to eliminate the possibility.  And really, no action performed by a user can be considered dumb since you have to be experienced to know if it was dumb or not.
 
2015/12/21 01:00:28
mettelus
LOL, I read Craig's post and was laughing at the end then realized I missed who the poster was and scrolled back up.. I should have known already... the Vader quote was the icing on the cake.
2015/12/21 01:23:08
mixmkr
I need to spend another 37 hrs a day with Sonar, so I can talk with more credibility in these wacky threads.  I don't even know what 'lulz' means ;-D
2015/12/21 02:56:37
Leadfoot
mixmkr
I don't even know what 'lulz' means ;-D

It's Beepster's variation on LOL.
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