2007/10/06 17:17:37
Jessie Sammler
Incidentally, Tandy Corp. doesn't exist anymore. They became RadioShack Corp. (NYSE:RSH) quite a while ago.


Huh. Well I'll be damned. I thought I was going to get to call them Tandy Corp for the rest of my life. No matter; I'll settle for Radio Shed, Radio Barn, the 'Barn, the 'Shed, the ToolShed, whatever.

In defense of Monster, their cables are usually nicer than the store brand, though store brands and others have improved quite a lot in just the past few years, with the quality and variety of manufacturing in China coming along as it has. (No "lead paint" jokes, okay?) I like the high-end stuff partly because some of it is actually made in the U.S., albeit frequently with a combination of domestic and imported components, or even all imported components. But it is nice to have a product that's been put together by hand in your own country, no matter where you live. (No idea if Monster's making anything in the U.S. anymore.)

What disgusts me about Monster -- aside from the lawsuit stuff -- is the simple fact that so many stores carry it and most consumers never seem to question that it's what they should be buying. They put so much money into advertising and legal expenses to get the market penetration and the shakedown money that they're after, but I wonder how much serious design effort they put into making cables? The inequity here reminds me of a certain business entity that I'll tentatively call a "speaker" company. Its name comes from a talented electrical engineer, has four letters and starts with a "B". They've become a huge marketing company that offers an astounding variety of iPod docks, autosound, and computer speakers, along with their traditional line of profoundly not-very-good home audio speakers. Few people of reasonable intelligence take them seriously, and many will gladly buy up-market and/or down-market to avoid them.
2007/10/06 22:41:42
losguy
ORIGINAL: Jessie Sammler
No matter; I'll settle for Radio Shed, Radio Barn, the 'Barn, the 'Shed, the ToolShed, whatever.

I'm partial to "Radio Snack".
2007/10/10 23:05:38
phrogbreath
Munster cable just plain Sounds BAD. Cable really matters and it's is not some subtle thing that only hard-core audiophiles and world-class mastering engineers can hear - the difference in detail is actually pretty stunning. My colleagues & I did a blind taste test a few months ago and the results were very impressive, even to the skeptics of the group who became instant converts. We even had a few lay-people in the control room with us and they had no problem whatsoever distinguishing between Munster and Mogami. Please feel free to try this for yourself.

I have a surprising GC story - the last time I went in there to buy a Mogami cable, the salesdood actually praised me for having the aural chops to choose it over Munster. When I was talking about how much better Mogami sounded he urged me to "please tell your friends".

Boycott Munster, if not for their business practices, then out sheer respect for your work. You can put a Brauner mic on a Stradivarius and if you run it through a munster cable, you might as well buy the venus de milo and use it as a hat rack.
2007/10/13 03:54:51
rasmussen
i disagree. i ain't never heard no dfference in them fru-fru cables vs. good 'ol hosa...

phrogbreath hears things with his wallet...
2007/10/13 14:38:35
bitflipper
The main compromise with Hosa or generic cables is they tend to break easily, and the machine-formed connectors cannot be easily repaired. Particularly embarrassing when it happens on stage. But at five bucks a pop, they are disposable items.

And there are reasonable alternatives such as home-built cables with quality components that, when assembled with care, are every bit as good as any brand-name cables. I have home-made cables that have been in service since the 70's, and I wouldn't hesitate to put them up against any expensive store cables in a blind A/B test.
2007/10/13 15:03:28
phrogbreath

ORIGINAL: rasmussen

i disagree. i ain't never heard no dfference in them fru-fru cables vs. good 'ol hosa...

phrogbreath hears things with his wallet...


Oh for cripes sake. Just for the record, folks, Mr. Rasmussen was one of the people who was there for the test that we did. He's just sore 'cause he has to go buy a bunch of new cable now. That's why he steals mics out of our locker at 6:00 on a Friday evening without putting them on the gear checkout log...

Bitflip - you can definitely build quality cable (as in mogami/neutrik) for cheaper than you can buy monster. I've run the numbers and it's a fact. As for beating the price of Hosa, and the like, I don't know but that's immaterial as I wouldn't choose to run Hosa in my record path at any cost. You can even save a couple bucks by buying cable by the spool. Some of us at work (Mr. Rasmussen included, I might add...) have talked about going in on a big ol' spool and having a soldering party.
2007/10/14 11:24:27
rasmussen
funny how a guy who has not changed drum heads or guitar strings since the clinton administration is spouting the virtues of quality cables ;-)
2007/10/14 14:42:49
Beagle
Here, looks like you two might need this:

2007/10/18 15:29:42
chipstar
LOL!!!! That is too damn funny. Brilliant.
2007/10/18 15:33:30
chipstar
BTW, thanks for all of this info. I have been using Monster's overpriced cables for a while but I didn't know about all of this. I had a few hundred dollars of MC gear wishlisted for future purchase but I went immediately changed it to Mogami cables and a Furman power condiitioner. I was actually able to get a better power conditioner with all of the saved cash. Very cool.

later,
Chipstar
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