bitflipper
I'm reviewing a new VST host targeted at live performers. It's pretty cool but feels a lot like version 1 (which it is). I don't know yet if it'll end up being my own solution for live use, but it looks promising.
Hi Dave,
Are you doing that for yourself because you are now playing with a band ? or are you doing this for an article ?
Which one are you demoing ? As a MainStage user I'm always interested in what can be done in Windows ...
The bulk of my paid software is Win based ...
bitflipper
So I'm surveying VST hosts in general, looking for commonalities, e.g. standard features and common limitations. The only ones I have significant experience with are VSTHost and SAVIHost, but I understand that the leaders are MainStage and Cantabile. I can't demo the former as it's Mac-specific, but I've installed a Cantabile Solo 30-day trial to check it out.
I took a look at the ones you have mentioned ...they seem very limited for live use on a stage if that is your intended application .
bitflipper
So far Cantabile strikes me as being rather obtuse and clumsy, but I don't want to base my opinion solely on a novice's perspective. I'd like to ask experienced users who've traversed the learning curve what it's like on the other side. Anyone use it?
WOW , I don't think I would want to waste my time using that in a live setting ...at home it may be another story .
Here's a screen shot of my older MacBook that I bought used for much less than a Duce ....
I'm posting this not to compare PC's to Mac's or any of that BS ...
this is only here to show a typical signal chain and how flexible MS is ....purposely used non 3rd party stuff ..
OK , having done that a few questions ..
Dave have you experimented around inside SONAR to configure it as a live VST performance host yet ? as opposed to trying 3 rd party solution ?
By that I mean , have you tried to set up your own custom one track at a time w a synth patch combined with VST effects and saved that track as a track template ? SONAR is very good at doing that if you have some time on your hands to see what you can come up with ...It may not ever be as good as what MainStage can do only because M S can load a bunch of different performances as a live concert set ...and not drain your CPU ...
another interesting thing MS can do is mix and match Synths , Guitar patches , Vocal patches , audio channel patches ...all within a concert set ...
To be fair to SONAR ....so can SONAR
yet to access all of that as a concert live on a stage setting may be difficult ...
A person may be able to come up with 1 , 2 , 3 , or 4 must have patches saved as track templates as a SONAR project to switch around within SONAR reliably in a Live setting using different instruments and sounds and be perfectly good to go ....
The beefier the lap top the more rack templates I suppose , yet I would want a lot of headroom in a Live setting ...
I sure don't want Murphy thinking he's a band member or part of my live performance
To be honest w you I hope I'm not bugging you
There is one other super good option (IMHO ) for a Win based live performance keyboard rig that is drop dead balls reliable ....
Have you considered downloading Abelton Live Lite ?
Live is set up in such a way as to be very simple for doing fast drag and drop instrument changes on the fly
A big plus is the audio engine doesn't glitch ...
Live Light may only be 4 tracks max IIRC , but a guy with your intellect and musical chops may get a whole lot of mileage using Live Lite in a live setting
it will handle all you plugs an soft-synths ....
The learning curve for using it live as a host for real time VST instrument performances is a piece of Cake ...
all the best ,
Kenny