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2015/12/20 05:05:18
seitan
hi guys. i would be pulling my hair out, but it left me a  few years back!
ok, so i paid for and downlaoded the mp3 activation. converts, seemingly fine. the soing i chose starts with guitar panned fully to one side. it starts off fairly loud but when all the other music cuts in, it goes quieter, like its equalising the whole sound to one volume, if that makes any sense?
im using 8.5 whihc ive only just started using, so im hoping its just a  few settings issues.
any help would be much appreciated, thanks :)
2015/12/20 06:19:09
Zargg
Hi. It sounds like you have a dynamic eq, compressor or limiter that is squeezing the sound to equal levels (maybe on the master bus?). 
Which plugins do you have in the project, and where are they placed? 
And do you have the latest update for SONAR 8.5?
Best of luck.
2015/12/20 09:45:08
seitan
hey, thanks.
someone else has suggested checking out the master bus, which i will attempt to do, as im not even really sure what that is!
i wasnt aware that i may need to update 8.5. how do i go about doing that?
all this sound slike i dont know what im doing, which, isnt far from the case, but i have recorded many songs and put them out there in vinyl and cd format, somehow ha ha
 
2015/12/20 10:04:12
bitflipper
Aside from the inherent limitations of the MP3 format, the encoded version should sound very similar to what you heard during playback from within SONAR. The mix should not radically change, nor should the spectral content. It is unlikely that the problem with with the MP3 encoder or its settings.
 
More likely, you are either making a routing error or are creating a mix that doesn't encode well.
 
First step is to check your routing. Keep it simple at first: route every track to a single master bus, and verify that everything's going to that bus by muting it - everything should go silent. The master bus, and nothing else, should be routed to your hardware interface. Once you've got that all set up correctly, you now at least know that what's going  out to the encoder is exactly the same data that's going to your audio interface. The resulting MP3 should sound very close to the same as when you're just playing back the song from SONAR.
 
It's also possible to create a mix that confuses the encoder and results in more artifacts than normal. This can even change your mix balance and ambiance/reverb perception.
 
The number one safeguard against this is to limit the audio's maximum and average levels. To see if this is part of your problem, lower everything until the meters on the master bus don't exceed -3 dB. That's a little quieter than most people master, but it's low enough to assure the MP3 encoder probably won't screw it up. Second, check your spectral distribution with a graphical spectrum analyzer (there are lots of free ones, my favorite is Voxengo SPAN) and make sure you don't have excessive bass or high-treble frequencies. Excessive bass (easy to end up with if your speakers are bass-light) can adversely affect limiters and suck the life out of a mix. Excessive high frequencies can cause ringing in the MP3.
2015/12/20 11:38:43
robbyk
seitan
i wasnt aware that i may need to update 8.5. how do i go about doing that?

 
I also use Sonar 8.5 and the way to check your version is, once you have Sonar open, click Help in the top menu bar, then click About Sonar. There you will see your version. I have the latest and mine reads:
 
Sonar Producer 8.5 (8.5.3.282)
 
Hope this helps. This is a very good improvement over 8.5 alone and is very stable (at least, on my meager system).
2015/12/20 13:19:23
Zargg
And if you do not have the latest version, log in to your Cakewalk account and download from there (under Products).
All the best.
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