...anyway. I have saved Craig A's solution. Because in a few months I am almost certain to have forgotten the details.
Craig, thank you.

Midiboy

vanceen
Moving around take lanes...

I'm trying to understand.  Why would you move take lanes?  That defeats their very purpose.  Leave the take lanes and use comping to create the final track. 

I also stumbled over this. I think I wanted to put the refrains (repeated 3 times in the song) on top of each other to fatten it up, and then copy that stack-of-3 to everywhere the refrain is sung. But the source was a single take.

Getting the stupid song I wrote to sound like I want it to.
 
But that's me, not the software. :-)

My Hardest Things: 
Take lanes. I got used to the old layers system. Take lanes may be nice for small track and lane amounts but not for multitracking real drumkit or a whole band. I'd rather use track folders.Take lanes eat too much screen estate and it's very impractical to keep them open unless editing single track. 
 
 
 

Soundwise
1. Automation
Copying automation between soft synth and MIDI tracks. E.g., I automated one soft synth and need to copy this envelope to another track with a different synth. Data is pasted onto a destination track, but I can't find a way to assign it to a desired parameter.
2. Comping
After recording and comping is done I bounce comp to clip. But when this clip is trimmed, Sonar lets underlying takes to produce sound. When I trim a clip on a track, I want the trimmed space to remain silent, and the sound of underlying takes is not desired.
Yeah, there's a bunch of workarounds, but using workaround makes it hard and difficult, doesn't it?

1) Are you pasting the automation envelope into an automation lane? If so just click on the Automation Lane's "filter" dropdown menu. That will show all available paramaters for the track. Look for the synth name, hover over it and a new menu will show up with all the parameters on that synth. Click on the appropriate one and your envelope will control that parameter (at least it should).
 
2) Try using the "Flatten Comp" procedure instead (right click on the visible composite "clip" in the parent track > Flatten Comp). That will bounce/mixdown and solo the comp. Otherwise you can just solo the lane your bounce ends up in and it will mute all the other gack in the track.
 
I also do a lasso select of clips in lanes > set the now time to where I want to trim > press S for Split (at Now Time) to trim all my takes for exactly this reason. It makes editing/comping a little less noisy/chaotic.
 
Cheers.

Beepster

Soundwise
1. Automation
Copying automation between soft synth and MIDI tracks. E.g., I automated one soft synth and need to copy this envelope to another track with a different synth. Data is pasted onto a destination track, but I can't find a way to assign it to a desired parameter.
2. Comping
After recording and comping is done I bounce comp to clip. But when this clip is trimmed, Sonar lets underlying takes to produce sound. When I trim a clip on a track, I want the trimmed space to remain silent, and the sound of underlying takes is not desired.
Yeah, there's a bunch of workarounds, but using workaround makes it hard and difficult, doesn't it?

1) Are you pasting the automation envelope into an automation lane? If so just click on the Automation Lane's "filter" dropdown menu. That will show all available paramaters for the track. Look for the synth name, hover over it and a new menu will show up with all the parameters on that synth. Click on the appropriate one and your envelope will control that parameter (at least it should).

Thanks for your reply. I still can't figure out how to re/assign pasted automation.

 

2) Try using the "Flatten Comp" procedure instead (right click on the visible composite "clip" in the parent track > Flatten Comp). That will bounce/mixdown and solo the comp. Otherwise you can just solo the lane your bounce ends up in and it will mute all the other gack in the track.
 
I also do a lasso select of clips in lanes > set the now time to where I want to trim > press S for Split (at Now Time) to trim all my takes for exactly this reason. It makes editing/comping a little less noisy/chaotic.
 
Cheers.

Yes, I know these workarounds, Flattening comp, freezing, recording or exporting tracks do just fine. Just wish there was an easier way to handle comp trimming.

Soundwise

Beepster

Soundwise
1. Automation
Copying automation between soft synth and MIDI tracks. E.g., I automated one soft synth and need to copy this envelope to another track with a different synth. Data is pasted onto a destination track, but I can't find a way to assign it to a desired parameter.
2. Comping
After recording and comping is done I bounce comp to clip. But when this clip is trimmed, Sonar lets underlying takes to produce sound. When I trim a clip on a track, I want the trimmed space to remain silent, and the sound of underlying takes is not desired.
Yeah, there's a bunch of workarounds, but using workaround makes it hard and difficult, doesn't it?

1) Are you pasting the automation envelope into an automation lane? If so just click on the Automation Lane's "filter" dropdown menu. That will show all available paramaters for the track. Look for the synth name, hover over it and a new menu will show up with all the parameters on that synth. Click on the appropriate one and your envelope will control that parameter (at least it should).

Thanks for your reply. I still can't figure out how to re/assign pasted automation.

 

2) Try using the "Flatten Comp" procedure instead (right click on the visible composite "clip" in the parent track > Flatten Comp). That will bounce/mixdown and solo the comp. Otherwise you can just solo the lane your bounce ends up in and it will mute all the other gack in the track.
 
I also do a lasso select of clips in lanes > set the now time to where I want to trim > press S for Split (at Now Time) to trim all my takes for exactly this reason. It makes editing/comping a little less noisy/chaotic.
 
Cheers.

Yes, I know these workarounds, Flattening comp, freezing, recording or exporting tracks do just fine. Just wish there was an easier way to handle comp trimming.

Okay based on your screen cap... instead of pasting the envelope right into the target track open up your target track's Automation Lanes first and paste the envelope into a new/blank lane. Then change the edit filter on the lane.
 
What is happening is you are pasting it into the track. You CAN... AFAIK also assing the envelope in the track as well by clicking on the TRACK edit filter then selecting automation and choosing the correct paramater but that is a guess. Also you probably want it in a lane anyway instead of being right in the parent track because that can get messy.
 
Hopefully that makes sense.
 
Cheers.

Sorry, completely OT:
 
How are you guys managing to post pictures?
When I try, all I get is text like this: [image]..[/image]
 
And what are you using to produce animated screenshots?
 
A picture is worth a thousand words.
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@Beepster - Thanks!
 

jpetersen
Sorry, completely OT:
 
How are you guys managing to post pictures?
When I try, all I get is text like this: [image]..[/image]
 
And what are you using to produce animated screenshots?
 
A picture is worth a thousand words.
 

a) You need to upload your image to an "image host" like imageshack/photobucket (not straight from your computer). Take the image link the host provides for the pic, copy it, click on the "Image" button in the comment tools at the top of the comment box (here on the forum) then paste the link into the box.
 
b) They are using screencapture software that can record desktop stuff. A program like "Snagit" will do what these guys are posting. Win10 supposedly has an internal screen recorder too so maybe that's why we are seeing more animated screenshots lately.

Beepster
 
Okay based on your screen cap... instead of pasting the envelope right into the target track open up your target track's Automation Lanes first and paste the envelope into a new/blank lane. Then change the edit filter on the lane.
 
What is happening is you are pasting it into the track. You CAN... AFAIK also assing the envelope in the track as well by clicking on the TRACK edit filter then selecting automation and choosing the correct paramater but that is a guess. Also you probably want it in a lane anyway instead of being right in the parent track because that can get messy.
 
Hopefully that makes sense.
 
Cheers.

It doesn't get pasted into a lane. I can't figure how to paste automation from one track to another without it becoming orphaned... Assign envelope menu displays only controls for a PC EQ. Is this a bug then?