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2015/12/03 21:07:49
Jimbo 88
bapu

What's the hardest thing you do in sonar?

Coming up with good ideas that the masses will enjoy.
 
Ok, seriously... slip editing vocal tracks. I wish I could say chop up clips and remove all clips below -40db. Then I could solo the vocal track and extend a clip that got chopped off and just apply fades (in and out) where needed.
 
Maybe there is a way to do that but I could not be arsed to find it.


Ok this thread is huge and I am not going to read thru it to see if someone answered this so forgive me for not ....but can't you do this by going to:    Process>Apply Effect>Remove Silence. 
 
You can choose -40db, And check the split clips box.....Won't that do the job for ya?
 
2015/12/03 21:11:08
Primetime
Mastering multiple songs
2015/12/03 21:56:19
jpetersen
@Craig Anderton
Thanks for your comprehensive and instructive reply!
Yes, the files came from an external source and quite probably
the program they used defaults to some odd offset which
the originator didn't know how to turn off.
 
Having said that, I have programmed WAV file header manipulation
code for akai samplers and have never even heard of Broadcast Waves.
2015/12/03 22:15:14
Anderton
jpetersen
Having said that, I have programmed WAV file header manipulation
code for akai samplers and have never even heard of Broadcast Waves.



That's not really surprising, they're two different worlds. BWFs were adopted by the European Broadcast Union in 1997 and have been updated a couple times since then, mostly because the original spec didn't accommodate files over 4 GB. Ooops...so now we have RF64 to get around that.
 
The big advantage of BWF for us lowly musician people is if I give you a bunch of time-stamped clips I created in SONAR and you use a different DAW that can import time-stamped clips, they'll magically end up in the right place on the timeline when you import them...which is actually kinda cool.
2015/12/03 22:49:19
SimpleM
LLyons
I believe BAPU is on to something.   I spend the most time going through dead spots - mostly vocals, then cutting them out, then creating volume edits at the tails. But that's not the most important thing for me..




Can't the "remove silence" function do this?  Set your threshold where you want it and it should remove the dead spots.  It may have been in a much earlier version but I believe you could (maybe still can) have it split the clips between phrases.  Then you could select an entire track and do a lead in slip fade and an out fade and it will put it on the start and end of each individual split out clip to guard against any pops.

I need to try this.

UPDATE:  Yes, this works.  A little tricky to set up at first but once you figure it out it is a good time saver.  Works best with low noise environments.  Not sure it would work with a live recording but controlled vocals on a fairly low-noise quality recording input chain works like a charm.
 
2015/12/03 22:51:14
mikedocy
 
What's the hardest thing you do in sonar?
 
Getting the song to stop at the end of the last track.
The transport keeps running for 15 minutes beyond the end of the song.
Now I have 3 songs that don't stop at the end of audio/midi tracks.
It seems that adding volume automation to a sub-master channel starts this problem.
And yes, I have checked for stray midi/audio/automation events and there are none.
 
2015/12/03 23:46:15
Adq
1. Midi editing, drawing.
PRV, note pane, controller pane, drum pane, smart tool, tools, alt-wheel zoom, snap, views/docking, in-line PRV, note colors, etc.. All this have bugs, flaws, inconveniences and oddities. I don't say it is bad overall, it is better for me than other software.
2. Routing.
Midi routing, drum maps, folders, audio routing, buses, VST/VSTi routing, synth rack,  ACT controllers, automation, outboard connection, etc.. All it work somehow, but there is lack of functionality. It is time consuming anyway, some part of it I don't know how to improve, but some other things could be improved significantly.
2015/12/04 05:10:32
Zargg
I would say Automation and MIDI editing is the hardest things I do in SONAR.
The rest is up to me to get right
2015/12/04 10:59:26
LLyons
Thank you SimpleM.  I appreciate the note and the work.  I will use this next vocal session.  I knew the remove silence was in there, but I was not aware of apply slip fades.  
 
LL
2015/12/04 11:06:12
BobF
Zargg71
I would say Automation and MIDI editing is the hardest things I do in SONAR.
The rest is up to me to get right




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