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  • Midi Velocity Editing in Piano Roll Editor Question.
2016/04/11 13:24:37
CSW
I use Sonar Platinum and Studio One Pro V3 for my projects. 
 
My question is this.....  In Studio One's  midi editor they have a feature that lets you "humanize" the velocity settings
of an instrument (AD2 in my case) after setting the initial intensity to the same level This is a quick way to correct and set many velocities at one time for things like HH snare or Kick drums. 
 
How can I do this efficiently in SonarPlat?  I can easily set all velocities for a given kit part by selecting them and using the line tool 
to get them at one level.  How can I globally randomize a selected set of velocities for a kick , HH  of snare for example?
 
I had a buddy with a Roland TD30 record some drum parts for me and a fair amount of the velocities needed adjusting.
 
Regards,
Craig 
2016/04/11 14:30:14
Bristol_Jonesey
I would recommend you check out the Midi Velocity plugin.
 
With your clip/notes selected in Track view, go Process Effect > Midi Effects > Cakewalk FX > Velocity
 
This will open the plugin. At the far right are the 2 Randomize fields. Click in the square to activate Randomization and set the limits to impose on the amount of randomization applied, when you're done, click Ok.
 
Note that if you only want to affect, say the hihats, select them in the prv AFTER selecting the clip in Track View
 
If you don't like the results, just hit ctrl + z to undo it
2016/04/11 15:11:13
brundlefly
Tried to post this earlier, but the Interwebs weren't working:
 
I would just manually edit the worst outliers in the natural performance or maybe use Process > Find/Change to 'compress' the range. Unless your buddy's playing was really out of control, this should give a more natural-sounding performance than flattening and then 'randomizing' individual parts.
 
But if you really want to do that, SONAR has a 'VaryVel' CAL script (Process > CAL) that will do this.
2018/05/30 16:53:58
Quill
Hey all....
 
I'm jumping this thread because I'm obviously a step behind. This thread refers to how easy it is to adjust the velocity for one instrument globally on Sonar Platinum.... um.... help?
I recently had a kick drum that was all over the place from my own manual playing/programming. Maybe I was drunk when I wrote it. No clue.
But, I thought, "Ok, I'll just find out how to set ALL of the kick drums (say C3) on the piano roll to 100 velocity and go from there".
No matter how hard I searched, I could not figure out how to change the MIDI velocity setting globally for any one "note". I sat there manually editing each quarter note kick drum until my eyes bled. There has GOT to be a better way, and maybe I won't feel like quite an idiot if I could get a lil help here?
 
Thanks, everyone. I've been on a hiatus and I'm getting back into creativity. I sure would like to be able to spend more time writing and playing and less time going, "Right click..... velocity change..... ok", and repeat..... and repeat.... and so on.
 
Have a great day!
 
 
 
 
2018/05/30 17:07:28
scook
Click on keyboard in the PRV to select the notes and set the velocity using the Event Inspector
Velocity in the PRV is discussed around 13 minute mark

 
2018/05/30 17:41:23
Cactus Music
I also have a tutorial on editing midi see my signature. 
Here is the part about how to make a group of notes the same velocity. 
 
This diagram is a midi note.
A= Velocity drag up or down to adjust. 
B= Adjust note start 
C= Select the note
B= Adjust note end

I like to have my Bass parts play at the same velocity. There's a few tricks and ways to do this but this is one I find is super easy and quick... all done with the mouse and the smart tool.
 
Select All to highlight.
Then using the smart tool I drag the velocity up so all notes are full. 
 Then let go. Now grab and pull down to 110 or what ever.
 
You can also just select all of one note, as in say a drum part buy clicking the corresponding piano key for that note. That will highlight just that note from the start to end of track. 
 
A quick way to select all is drag the mouse down the piano keyboard with the left click held. 
 
 
 
edit: changed text color -sc   thanks steve JV
2018/05/30 18:03:05
scook
It is possible to set text color using the full editor,
Select the text and use the text color picker

2018/05/30 18:21:45
Cactus Music
Thanks for the fix, on the web page it's on a dark background. , I keep forgetting you can open the more detailed view. 
2018/05/30 19:21:52
Bristol_Jonesey
Cactus Music
I also have a tutorial on editing midi see my signature. 
Here is the part about how to make a group of notes the same velocity. 
 
This diagram is a midi note.
A= Velocity drag up or down to adjust. 
B= Adjust note start 
C= Select the note
B= Adjust note end

I like to have my Bass parts play at the same velocity. There's a few tricks and ways to do this but this is one I find is super easy and quick... all done with the mouse and the smart tool.
 
Select All to highlight.
Then using the smart tool I drag the velocity up so all notes are full. 
 Then let go. Now grab and pull down to 110 or what ever.
 
You can also just select all of one note, as in say a drum part buy clicking the corresponding piano key for that note. That will highlight just that note from the start to end of track. 
 
A quick way to select all is drag the mouse down the piano keyboard with the left click held. 
 
 
 
edit: changed text color -sc   thanks steve JV


Johnny it's even quicker using the Event Inspector. Just highlight all of the notes you want to be the same velocity and type the desired velocity in the box
 
 

2018/05/31 14:51:14
stevetrusty11
Ok, without being by my computer there is another way I found quite simple I didn’t see listed. Forgive me if I looked over it.

1. Click the midi track

2. View piano roll

There’s a drop down on the top left of piano roll, “view only selected note” click on the keys going down the left side to find your kick. You’ll be left with only those midi “kick” notes in the piano view.

Towards the bottom on the piano roll view there is a way to “click and DRAG UP” another window resides there, (sometimes it’s already there just really small) you will have velocity lines under each note. That window can be as big as you want.

There’s a lasso looking button on the side (if my memory strikes me right)

Hit your “select arrow”
Highlight all the notes visible which should be your kick only.

It will wrap all those velocities.

Then just drag all the way up to your desired Velocity. It will max them ALL if you go too far, or if you have “light and soft hits” it will keep them the same velocity until you reach the max (120 I believe), it will pull the rest up to max too.. all else fails - edit undo.

Not the best explanation being away from my computer. But this process has allowed me to level and/or max all drum pieces hits in under a minute.
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