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2015/12/07 08:45:35
Mojo3432
Hey everyone,
 
I fear I may have done something very stupid, so I thought I would turn to the great people of this forum for some help and insight.  I have Sonar Platinum and updated to Kingston over the weekend.  All went fine.  When all of my downloads were finished, I wanted to perform a bit of housekeeping on my hard drives.  I went into the settings of CCC and made changes to two things...where the future update files will be downloaded to (from C to G).....and where the multi-samples are stored for Rapture Pro and Session (from C to H).  
 
Then I proceeded to copy all of the folders and files for Rapture Pro and Session from my C drive to my H drive.  Everything went fine.  However, I then proceeded to pull up both Rapture Pro and Session to make sure they were working properly after all of that, but I'm finding that I have several items from each that are just silent when you try to play them.  Like no sound samples at all.
But there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to which ones.  I might have 8 in a row that are fine and then 1 with no sound and then I may have 3 which are fine and then 10 with no sound.
 
Are the sound samples fragmented to different locations where I may have missed some and not brought them all over to the new drive??
 
Thanks for your help.
2015/12/07 09:50:07
scook
You might be able to figure it out be turning on logging and review the logs for the failing programs. The option to turn logging in Rapture Session, click the button in the upper right. For Rapture Pro use the Options menu. The default location for the logs is" C:\Cakewalk content\Rapture Pro\Logs."
2015/12/07 10:36:29
Mojo3432
scook
You might be able to figure it out be turning on logging and review the logs for the failing programs. The option to turn logging in Rapture Session, click the button in the upper right. For Rapture Pro use the Options menu. The default location for the logs is" C:\Cakewalk content\Rapture Pro\Logs."



Thanks Scook.  I'll give that a try when I get home tonight.  It would be great if each of the soft synths had an option for setting the data path right from within the synth itself.  I use BFD3 and it has a section where you can choose and set all of that info.  I guess I thought the Rapture synths would have a similar option as well.  Of course, I realized they do not AFTER I had moved things around.
 
It is puzzling to me though, why it's only SOME of the samples and not ALL of them. 
2015/12/07 10:48:41
scook
Mojo3432
It is puzzling to me though, why it's only SOME of the samples and not ALL of them. 

This is why I recommended the log. There not enough information in the posts so far to suggest anything else.
2015/12/07 14:28:44
robert_e_bone
Is there a refresh database F5 option built in to these? It has been a while, but I recall opening up the Dim Pro and Rapture browsers and hitting F5 to tell each synth to rebuild/.refresh its database.  Just wondering if that had been tried, and if so did it make any difference.
 
Bob Bone
2015/12/07 14:34:44
scook
F5 in DPro and Rapture rebuilds the program index, programs.lst. The program index is the list used by the program browser. No validation of the programs occurs during this process. I do not believe there is a tool provided which inspects the programs and validates the sample paths other than the synth itself.
2015/12/07 18:57:54
Mojo3432
OK, this is what the log says for the very first sound available to choose (Atmospheric/80s Poly Pad 1)........
 
Program: G:\Cakewalk Content\Rapture Pro\Programs\Rapture Pro\Atmospheric\80s Poly Pad 1.prog
The following samples could not be loaded:
Element 1:
C:\Cakewalk Content\Cakewalk Sample Data\Rapture Pro\Multisamples\EDP Gnat Special\Gnat Enhance.sfz
Element 2:
C:\Cakewalk Content\Cakewalk Sample Data\Rapture Pro\Multisamples\EDP Gnat Special\Gnat Enhance 2.sfz
Element 3:
c:\cakewalk content\cakewalk sample data\rapture pro\multisamples\wavetable collection 1\cello_3.wav
Element 4:
C:\Cakewalk Content\Cakewalk Sample Data\Rapture Pro\Multisamples\Compressed Strings\Compressed Strings.sfz
 
So it looks like it knows that it needs to be pulling the program material from the G drive (which is correct) But also like it wants to pull the samples from the C drive (which is incorrect - it should be G as well).
 
Any ideas on how I can fix this?  I'm stumped.
 
Thanks
 
2015/12/07 19:04:20
Mojo3432
I also found that the VST Plug-in properties path for Rapture Session is....
 
c:\program files\common files\VST3\Rapture Session\RaptureSession_64.vst3
 
I don't know if that makes any difference or not, but just thought I would put it out there.
 
Thanks
2015/12/07 19:04:41
scook
After moving the sample data what was done to tell RPRo about the move.
2015/12/07 19:17:51
Mojo3432
scook
After moving the sample data what was done to tell RPRo about the move.



Hey Scook.  Well, that's kind of part of the problem...other than changing the path in the CCC, I can't really find a way to tell RPro directly to refer to the new path.  I feel that if there was a way to - that would probably solve the issue.  Or at least help to.
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