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2015/12/03 14:44:04
kennywtelejazz
John
I will continue to post in threads about what I think is a good post in my own way. However it never occurred to me that there would be any objection to marking a post as best answer.  I wont do it again. I went back and rescinded the best answer and made it helpful.   


 
John ,
In hindsight ,I should have used more restraint of tongue and pen in the post that challenged your role as a mod   . 
If my actions of making a confrontational type of statement on a public forum questioning the role and boundaries of a forum moderator have caused you any level of emotional distress I am truly sorry . I wish I could take it back .
 
I sincerely hope you understand that I happen to respect you as a human being first and foremost . It was not my intention to attack you as a person on any level what so ever .
I happen to value your opinion and your unbridled right to express it any way you chose .
You have helped me out a number of times over the years . 
The times you did offer your help , I was grateful that you took the time to reach out to me  
 
Kenny
 
2015/12/03 14:59:26
stevec
Well, this thread has sure taken a positive turn!   
2015/12/03 15:03:38
John
kennywtelejazz
John
I will continue to post in threads about what I think is a good post in my own way. However it never occurred to me that there would be any objection to marking a post as best answer.  I wont do it again. I went back and rescinded the best answer and made it helpful.   


John ,
In hindsight ,I should have used more restraint of tongue and pen in the post that challenged your role as a mod   . 
If my actions of making a confrontational type of statement on a public forum questioning the role and boundaries of a forum moderator have caused you any level of emotional distress I am truly sorry . I wish I could take it back .
 
I sincerely hope you understand that I happen to respect you as a human being first and foremost . It was not my intention to attack you as a person on any level what so ever .
I happen to value your opinion and your unbridled right to express it any way you chose .
You have helped me out a number of times over the years . 
The times you did offer your help , I was grateful that you took the time to reach out to me  
 
Kenny
 


No. Please, not at all. Once I had others explain it to me as was done, there was nothing for me to do but go back and fix the mistake I alone made. You had every right to point it out to me. Actually I am grateful for the forthrightness of your post and the others. No one has done anything wrong here except perhaps me. 
2015/12/03 15:14:04
charlyg
Peace, Love, Led Zeppelin!
2015/12/03 15:47:12
Soundwise
Anderton
Then hobbyists who are watching budgets super-carefully shouldn't buy more costly software that's designed for hardcore professional users who make a living off of it. They can buy SONAR Artist, or Music Creator, get a bundled version of an LE program with an interface, or whatever rather than complain about paying the price for pro-level equipment. Similarly, this is why Fender makes Squier guitars, Gibson makes Epiphone, and Porsche makes Volkswagens.
 

As one can easily record a huge hit using some cheap Epi, Squire or similar, in the same way a person can create a masterpiece just using a budget DAW. Theoretically speaking, that is. )
Not sure about cars, but I know quite a few people, who own high grade guitars by Gibson, Fender and other respected brands. Some of them don't even own a car, some of them can't play guitar (at least professionally). Yet they keep on buying. There's an old joke "How many guitars does a guitarist need? - One more!". So when somebody buys a Gibson or a Fender he doesn't necessarily buy an instrument or a tool, but rather he buys a legend.
When we compare modern DAWs to legendary equipment of the past, I believe we should not devalue old stuff, although it was a lot bulkier, expensive and much less flexible compared to a DAW.
I believe, more emphasis should be put on marketing entry-level versions of Sonar. These gems are not poorman's SPlat. One can do almost anything using just Music Creator. When I've learned how great MC7 and Cakewalk support is I got an Artist version. But soon found out, that I need some features, that are Platinum only. Yes, I paid for 3 versions of Sonar while I need only 1, but that's how I discovered the value of Sonar.
My point is, value is more important than a price tag.
PS I'm not trying to argue with you, just sharing my thoughts.
2015/12/03 15:56:26
bapu
Sheesh.
 
What's a 5 page thread if there is no arguing?
2015/12/03 16:25:06
Beepster
*smashes folding chair over bapu*
 
Ooooh yeeeeeah!!!
 
/Macho Man
2015/12/03 17:14:23
Teds_Studio
I have not read thru every post in the thread....but for those of us who make our living with software, I don't think $150 a year is that much of a cost for the benefits we get.  Plus....it's totally tax deductible :) .  OTOH...if music is a hobby...I can see where someone would rather buy the software...pay for it once...and just use it and not worry about updates if the software works for them.
2015/12/03 20:34:15
Anderton
kennywtelejazz
I wish I could take it back.



I don't! It's very cool to see someone who is not afraid to say what they think, but even more tellingly, is not afraid to change their opinion in the face of additional data or reflection. It sets a good example of how to interact, clarify intent, and solve problems. My opinion of you went up another notch after the way you handled this. Ditto John. Neither would have happened if you'd held your tongue.
2015/12/03 21:56:41
Paul P
Soundwise
As one can easily record a huge hit using some cheap Epi, Squire or similar, in the same way a person can create a masterpiece just using a budget DAW. Theoretically speaking, that is.



This song was a huge hit a while back. No expensive instruments were harmed during its production.
 
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