Compare it to the old cost, don't just make stuff up..

charlyg
Compare it to the old cost, don't just make stuff up..

I don't understand your comment compare to old cost can you explain more please? 

what "old cost"? the $ amount is the same, but the delivery timings have changed - now you're paying for a period of time (12 months, and whatever that gives you), versus the old way of paying for a "major version" with an unknown number of "minor version" updates following within the succeeding 12-18 months...
 
there's currently nothing "up next" apart from style dials and "optimisations" - i wonder what new features will be added? marketing, hello?

BMOG
 
$150 times forever adds up over time don't you think? So we are paying for fixes to bugs they created and they throw us a good plugin every blue moon and we should swoon over paying $150 for that?  Hmmm....

I guess I don't fully understand your issue here.  No one is FORCING you to renew.  If renewing isn't right for you....then don't do it.  But please don't attack others because they feel it's right for them.  It's a simple choice.

Mojo3432

BMOG
 
$150 times forever adds up over time don't you think? So we are paying for fixes to bugs they created and they throw us a good plugin every blue moon and we should swoon over paying $150 for that?  Hmmm....

I guess I don't fully understand your issue here.  No one is FORCING you to renew.  If renewing isn't right for you....then don't do it.  But please don't attack others because they feel it's right for them.  It's a simple choice.

That sounds like an attack to you? I guess when reading other words we add emotion to them but for the record I was not attacking him just making a statement

blue moon and swoon are not usually parts of "just making a statement"....

charlyg
blue moon and swoon are not usually parts of "just making a statement"....

I believe you are a tad bit sensitive today and I believe your comments of "Compare it to the old cost, don't just make stuff up.." sounds more like an attack than what I said but I am a person who believes in freedom of expression your thoughts are your thoughts just like my thoughts are my thoughts.  Look at your comments compared to everyone else who has chimmed in I am just sayin.... you seem bitter why? Does my choice impact you in some kind of way?

To me it makes sense to compare the features and timing between X1 and X2, then X2 and X3 and then look at the upgrade pricing for those new versions. I came to the conclusion that the new model is pretty much in line with the previous way of shipping a new version every year or so. So for me, cost-wise nothing has changed much, give or take a few bucks on the renewal price.
 
What has changed is the regularity and frequency of fixes and the scope of new features and content that have been and will no doubt continue to be shipped. In terms of features, I think Cakewalk has exceeded whatever bar they may have set for themselves in new functionality, and personally I'm impressed as hell with what they've accomplished.
 
As for bugs, I don't recall any product of Cakewalk's that received twelve fix updates in a year before they shipped a new version, does anybody else? It would be great to see some stats on the number of bugs fixed this year so far. I'd guess the numbers are higher than the typical numbers in the old model. And unlike in the old model, the fixes will just keep coming and they won't ever stop.
 
So yeah, to me, renewal is a no-brainer.

kevinwal
To me it makes sense to compare the features and timing between X1 and X2, then X2 and X3 and then look at the upgrade pricing for those new versions. I came to the conclusion that the new model is pretty much in line with the previous way of shipping a new version every year or so. So for me, cost-wise nothing has changed much, give or take a few bucks on the renewal price.
 
What has changed is the regularity and frequency of fixes and the scope of new features and content that have been and will no doubt continue to be shipped. In terms of features, I think Cakewalk has exceeded whatever bar they may have set for themselves in new functionality, and personally I'm impressed as hell with what they've accomplished.
 
As for bugs, I don't recall any product of Cakewalk's that received twelve fix updates in a year before they shipped a new version, does anybody else? It would be great to see some stats on the number of bugs fixed this year so far. I'd guess the numbers are higher than the typical numbers in the old model. And unlike in the old model, the fixes will just keep coming and they won't ever stop.
 
So yeah, to me, renewal is a no-brainer.

Great points but X3 was solid and I had no complaints , by far my favorite features in platinum are quad curve with the frequency being visible, vocal sync and comping because I record drums live.  If they never made another enhancement what we have now is more than efficient in my opinion. I guess the real question how much better can it be?  Allowing a Mac version maybe?  If we had a version for Mac I think we can get in the conversation with ProTools because of the solid performance Mac machines provides

BMOG

Great points but X3 was solid and I had no complaints , by far my favorite features in platinum are quad curve with the frequency being visible, vocal sync and comping because I record drums live.  If they never made another enhancement what we have now is more than efficient in my opinion. I guess the real question how much better can it be?  Allowing a Mac version maybe?  If we had a version for Mac I think we can get in the conversation with ProTools because of the solid performance Mac machines provides

I'd rather seen Windows improve to the point where people are saying, "Mac? What's the point?" lol
 
I know MS is making some big investments in their audio stack in Windows 10, so maybe we'll see that reflected in Sonar pretty soon, yeah? MS is saying they're already getting pretty much ASIO performance out of WDM drivers now and are coming up and with other fixes and changes in the audio architecture so I am hopeful.
 
The point is, I'd rather Cakewalk focus its resources on music production functionality and not on getting everything to work on competing OS's.