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  • I HATE take lanes. (p.2)
2018/05/11 19:57:32
Andrzej Salm
marled
I like the idea of take lanes, but I hate the copy/paste bugs. Most annoying is when I sometimes COPY a clip and paste it to another lane then it disappears in the original lane, maybe even out of view so that I don't notice it.
 
Right! You ask why I copy a clip from one lane to another? That's because another problem that I have with loop recording: When you stop loop recording all clips in the take lanes get split at the stop point. And this is really nonsense IMHO. I guess most users rather want the splitting at the loop start/end positions, i.e. there is no splitting within the take lanes after recording.


This one is actually easy to fix: change record mode to "sound on sound". No clip splitting anymore
2018/05/11 20:12:19
Andrzej Salm
Another irrational behavior:
I recorded a few takes in a loop, promoted take 4 to parental track. Closed take lane view and in the track view i moved the clip let's say 4 measures forward. Only take 4 track lane got moved. The rest of them stayed in the original place. So, now I have two clips in the parental track, one is greyed out... If I decide that take 3 will be better in the new place, well, tough luck because take 3 stayed in original position.
All take lanes should be moved or copied with the parental clip.
This is a horrible mess.
 
2018/05/11 20:30:38
Andrzej Salm
wetdentist
i comp without using Take Lanes (because i've had the problem with lost audio) and instead just use normal audio tracks for my 'takes' & this works great for me.


This is what I started doing today. I ticked "store takes in separate tracks" and now am good to go. I don't want to click even once on a take lane button ever again.
2018/05/12 04:07:23
Jimbo 88
I have trouble with take lanes also.  I've tried a bunch of times to get use to it, but I can't.  Even in another DAW (Cubase) I had the same issues. Same concept.
 
So now when I get into a recording situation where tracks are getting out of control and I have to go to using take lanes, once I finish recording I will create a clean track and move takes to the clean track.  I do this by highlighting the clip/take I want to keep that is in the lane (not trying to make the good take the "prefered" track) then control +alt will copy the clip and keep it in the correct place in the timeline and drop it into the new clean track.  Once I'm done with that I can breath a sigh of relief and get back work.  I hide the track with all the takes and keep it in-case, but hope that I never need to see it again....  
 
2018/05/12 08:27:37
Kev999
I've never had any real difficulties while working with take lanes. However I have seen some weird behaviour with clips that have been created inside take lanes and subsequently moved to other tracks. When nudging these clips (using the numeric keypad) over other clips, they behave like Pacman and eat up the clips that they pass over.
2018/05/12 11:41:50
wetdentist
Andrzej Salm
wetdentist
i comp without using Take Lanes (because i've had the problem with lost audio) and instead just use normal audio tracks for my 'takes' & this works great for me.


This is what I started doing today. I ticked "store takes in separate tracks" and now am good to go. I don't want to click even once on a take lane button ever again.


 
yup that's exactly how i do it.  works like a charm & with no worries
2018/05/12 13:33:25
fireberd
I hate them too.  I've watched tutorials on them and read instructions on them and still can't get them figured out. 
I just do it the old fashioned way as several others have previously mentioned. 
 
2018/05/12 14:10:27
olemon
There are several threads on Take Lanes.  It was frustrating and confusing when I first tried to use them.  My biggest headache was when stopping the Loop somewhere within the Loop, and all the previous clips were split/duplicated, I'd end up with clip chaos.  Then I discovered that those split clips could be deleted and that the original clip would remain in tact - slip edit reveals the original.  I haven't tried the Sound on Sound option.
 
I primarily use Take Lanes for vocals and sometimes I use different tracks for different sections, Verse 1, Chorus 1, and so on.  But if the vocal sections have enough space between them such that I can loop song sections without overlap and more 'clip chaos,' I might record all the takes on a single track...it all depends.
 
Then what I usually do is I get rid of the split clips, duplicate that original track, mute/hide it to preserve the raw vocals and just work on the duplicate.  I then go through those takes, split clips as needed and copy/promote the clips I want to a new Take Lane muting all the other clips as I go (eventually I delete them).  Once I have a comp'd vocal consisting of those selected clips, I might apply a little Melodyne Region FX, Bounce to Clip, apply fades, etc.
2018/05/12 14:51:40
The Maillard Reaction
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2018/05/13 10:16:50
jpetersen
It seems the hard-to-reproduce "Slivers" bug appeared when Take Lanes were introduced.
 
"Slivers" are those bits of clips that break off when overlapping clips are later moved apart again.
People report pops and when they zoom right in, they find these thin clip slivers.
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