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  • Still cannot get Kingston to download [Solved] (p.2)
2015/11/27 16:21:38
Doktor Avalanche
What DNS servers are you using BTW?
2015/11/27 17:03:24
John
Doktor Avalanche
John
I would contact your ISP and see what is the hang up. Unless you are on a 300 baud modem 4 days is ridiculous. 


Before you do that check www.speedtest.net shows reasonable speeds, waste of time otherwise. The ISP can't control the internet.

No it can't control the internet but it can control the speed. 
2015/11/27 17:11:35
kevinwal
Given his download speeds, I think Dok is sucking up all your bandwidth.
2015/11/27 17:17:16
Zargg
John

No it can't control the internet but it can control the speed. 


Come on! Now you are just making "excuses" to continue the "argument"... Nitpicking is what this is. 
2015/11/27 17:18:06
Doktor Avalanche
John
I would contact your ISP and see what is the hang up. Unless you are on a 300 baud modem 4 days is ridiculous. 

 
Doktor Avalanche
Before you do that check www.speedtest.net shows reasonable speeds, waste of time otherwise. The ISP can't control the internet.

 
John
No it can't control the internet but it can control the speed. 



Nope John, FYI - The ISP cannot control speed of networks (i.e. "the internet") beyond their servers or whatever pipes they hire/control. It is not like this.
 
The slowest link in the chain is what we are looking at here. If www.speedtest.net gives good results (note it will be slower if downloads are actually happening) then the issue is most likely beyond their networks. This is most often the case.
 
One common issue when downloading large files slowly is is when people change the DNS supplied by the ISP, or that the ISP is supplying an overloaded DNS server. Often a good thing to try is changing their DNS settings to OpenDNS... current IP's are:
  • 208.67.222.222
  • 208.67.220.220
If they are already using OpenDNS then try changing it back to ISP or using another DNS service.
There are also other issues as well that could happen:
* Overloading of amazon cloud servers serving the files (or fault).
* Overload or fault of amazon network infrastructure.
* Overload or fault of any network infrastructure in between (if there are faster networks available then the route is likely to change automatically however, depends on how many "routes" are available).
 
If you know the IP address it's downloading from you can do a tracert from the command prompt to how fast the "hops" are.
 
My hunch is however that the amazon servers are just being served up slowly in the OP's part of the world, or some huge process is running on the particular server it's downloading from which is slowing it right down... That's what normally happens. At some stage it will suddenly (and rapidly) probably become a lot faster, as what happened yesterday with a person with a similar issue.
2015/11/27 17:21:42
John
ISP as I am using it is Internet Service Provider. i.e. Comcast for example and they do control the speed. In fact the FCC just ruled about this. 
2015/11/27 17:24:17
Doktor Avalanche
John
ISP as I am using it is Internet Service Provider. i.e. Comcast for example and they do control the speed. In fact the FCC just ruled about this. 



You are talking about bandwidth throttling, that too is an issue and is often by design in the contract. Various laws exist about this all over the world. www.speedtest.net should give a clue here if this is happening or not.
2015/11/27 17:31:55
John
Why do you think I advised him to contact his ISP? He needs to find out why his speed is so slow. Keep in mind he is in the US and we have all sorts of ways for connecting to the internet. Some are lighting fast others are very slow and rely on very old technology. It all depends on where some one is and what is available in that area. 
2015/11/27 17:36:34
Doktor Avalanche
John
Why do you think I advised him to contact his ISP? He needs to find out why his speed is so slow. Keep in mind he is in the US and we have all sorts of ways for connecting to the internet. Some are lighting fast others are very slow and rely on very old technology. It all depends on where some one is and what is available in that area. 

 
John I suggested he checks www.speedtest.net first before he does as you say, otherwise he will be completely wasting his time as the issue will be outside the scope of the ISP. If speedtest.net gives a slow reading then your advice may be very apt. I have also suggested flipping over DNS servers as well (a common issue).
2015/11/27 17:37:00
RajahP
thepianist53
Been trying incessantly to download the updates, but it just goes too slow, hangs, won't progress. Was able to get the basic part of Rapture Session, only. Cannot get the other add-ons for it. Kingston itself sticks at about 6.5 percent downloaded. I've tried deleting the cached downloads, but no matter what it doesn't work. This is getting frustrating, I cannot recall such a bottle neck for the past two days--I'm assuming it will work in a few days, but it's bumming me out on a holiday weekend that I cannot use the new tools that many others are already using. All my past updates have been easier to get, my internet speed is fine otherwise.
If anyone has a tip on how to bypass the bottleneck let me know; otherwise, I'll see Kingston next month, I guess.





 
Been having the same issues for the past couple of days also... did not even get to Kingston updates yet... Rapture Session just 'stuck'.. I kept shutting down and restarting (and re-downloading) CCC... and this did the trick...
 
Well, let me go see what Rapture Sessions is made of... Good Luck..
 
 
And Kingston..
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