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2015/11/21 04:07:14
GIM Productions
Hi all the Tonebooster Isone Pro is an awesome ambient simulation plug in.
Best
2015/11/21 10:36:53
pwalpwal
GIM Productions
Hi all the Tonebooster Isone Pro is an awesome ambient simulation plug in.
Best

+1
2015/11/21 12:33:32
joden
Anderton
joden
as a supplementary question - do you think it would it work okay for an emulation of the Alesis M1 MkII? (I note no factory emulation preset is available)
 

 
The Monitorizer is not about emulating different speakers (like VRM does), or different acoustical environments (like Beyerdynamic's virtual studio). From the eZine, here's what it does:
 
While not as sophisticated as some products that try to emulate a complete room environment down to the last detail, the Monitorizer is based on the same principles:
 
  • Feed a little left channel into the right channel, and feed a little right channel into the left channel.
  • Delay the additional feeds by 1-2 ms to emulate that the right speaker signal hitting your left ear is delayed slightly compared to when it hits your right ear, and the left speaker signal hitting your right ear is delayed slightly compared to when it hits your left ear.
  • Add in some very subtle reflections to be more like a "room."
  • Reduce the highs of the additional feeds just a tiny bit because your head is in the way and attenuates the highs.
 
That's all there is to it. The reason I came up with the Monitorizer is I wanted something where the tone would be the same as the headphones, but with imaging that's more like speakers.
 
I very rarely (if ever, come to think of it) create something to replicate what already exists...if a solution already exists, I'll go for it and save myself the hassle. One benefit of the Monitorizer is that you can access the parameters and modules so you can tinker with it, which you can't do with other solutions.




Craig I was asking about the Focusrite VRM module, not the monitoriser
2015/11/21 15:06:20
Lynn
Joden, the original Alesis Monitor One was used in the VRM models, as was Auratones.  I own both speakers and the VRM does a credible emulation of both.  I also own a pair of KRK rokit's and the VRM captures them quite well, too.
 
2015/11/21 15:14:37
fireberd
I have a VRM box.  It currently "collects dust".  I seemed to be a gimmick more than a useful tool, for me.
2015/11/21 16:37:05
joden
Lynn
Joden, the original Alesis Monitor One was used in the VRM models, as was Auratones.  I own both speakers and the VRM does a credible emulation of both.  I also own a pair of KRK rokit's and the VRM captures them quite well, too.
 




Cheers, thanks Lynn
 
Dennis
2015/11/22 14:26:54
Lynn
fireberd
I have a VRM box.  It currently "collects dust".  I seemed to be a gimmick more than a useful tool, for me.


I used to wonder whether I made a good investment with the VRM.  Every mix I made, I played through the "media speakers " in the bedroom environment and nothing sounded good.  I began to doubt that anything could sound good through them, until I played Steely Dan.  Yes, they sounded good with SD and a light bulb went off in my head.  Now I'm not done with a mix until it sounds OK through all the bedroom speaker emulations, and, lo and behold, that made my mixes translate better across more systems.  Plus, I use the ARC 2 system on my speakers which rounds out my mixing environment.  The VRM would be useful on an airplane with a laptop and headphones if you travel much.
2015/11/22 14:37:51
Beepster
Since I got my VRM Box it has helped me isolate a lot of "sh*t" in my mixes.
 
That said... I work almost exclusively through headphones, I do not have a proper listening environment and I'm a essentially a n00b hack when it comes to mixing.*
 
If those things do not apply to you (as in you have a good room with good speakers and know WTF you are doing) then yes... the VRM Box probably isn't that useful aside from just some extra listening options IF you are feeling curious.
 
To a clowno fartwad like me? Invaluable and I'm looking forward to trying out this extra monitoring option. It all helps.
 
*I also don't have a car, access to all the bar PA systems I used to, can't crank up my stereo systems in my apartment, just don't have the usual mix testing options outside of my dark, silent little mixing cubby.
 
Edit: What I DO have is a huge bag of headphones/earbuds of varying quality that I can swap in and out so that helps a bit too.
2015/11/22 17:18:15
JonD
Beepster
Since I got my VRM Box it has helped me isolate a lot of "sh*t" in my mixes.
 



Same here.  In fact, I just bought the Sonarworks headphone Ref plugin, which, theoretically, should flatten my headphone response and give better results through the VRM.  (This assumes Focusrite used flat-ish headphones in their models.  If they used, say, Dr Dre Beats, I've just flushed $60 down the commode).
2015/11/22 17:24:15
Jesse Screed
YO BEEPSTER!!!!
 
Stop dissing yourself.
 
Nobody cares if you can mix or not.  What we care about is all the effort you put into learning about the craft, and then sharing what you have learned.  Your fingerprints are all over this forum.
 
So Dude, give yourself a little love.  If you don't believe in yourself nobody else will.  Besides, I'm sure you're pretty good, and probably getting better everyday.
 
Just saying.
 
Peace
 
Jesse
 
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