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2014/05/20 14:39:02
Starise
If we consider entanglement as explained through  quantum mechanics(which I don't understand), then when you added the ones together something else happened across the room or across the universe in direct relation to that action in another series of systems. The entanglement leaves a danglement? At the very least it might cause a stray quark or two.
2014/05/20 15:34:15
quantumeffect
Can you measure "danglement" with a goniometer ... I hear bit has one you can borrow (although you might want to wash it off first).
2014/05/20 17:59:31
yorolpal
Actually there are only two kinds of people in the world: Me...and everybody else.
2014/05/20 18:12:20
craigb
yorolpal
Actually there are only two kinds of people in the world: Me...and everybody else.



That's because YOU are unique Myolpal!
(Just like everybody else.) 
2014/05/20 19:55:12
bitflipper
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who insist on dividing everyone into two types, and those who don't. I am definitely in the latter group.
2014/05/21 05:20:19
Soundblend
A LATER POST


This is a more " proper way of measuring " or looking at things.

Unit factor : no ( ) used in this, giving the result we learn, by mathematics !
1+1 = 2 units

Result factor :
If units is inside the : ( )  look at it as blending the 2 together
to make a hybrid or offspring, call it the result factor , it talks about all units
( 1+1 ) = 3 , unit 1, unit 2 and the third unit.

Hybrid / offspring factor :
this talks about the single new unit from the, result factor
you can not have a " hybrid / offspring 3rd unit ", unless you have
2 units blended together resulting in the new single unit.

(1)+(1) = 1
2014/05/21 12:59:28
quantumeffect

There are two kinds of people in the world: those who insist on dividing everyone into two types, and those who don't. I am definitely in the latter group.

 
I thought there were three: dogs, pigs and sheep.
 
To keep things consistent and in the spirit of the thread, I think if you add them up you get 1 with units of sheepdogpigman.
2014/05/21 14:35:21
Starise
I probably wouldn't be qualified to use a goniometer. That probably wouldn't stop me from trying though. I'll do it if it doesn't involve human subjects ;)
 
Soundblend- I think you're onto something, but things get fuzzy when you measure different things.Especially  small things. Take light for instance, It is described as both a particle and a wave in physics and it appears to be both. In the slit experiment light seems to simultaneously pass through both slits as  a wave and a particle and appears to excite itself on the other side of the plate. (ok guys hold the jokes)There are waves from the light and the sum of the waves is present as a difference and a combination. It is as if the light is the same coming through both slits, yet there are different outcomes on the other side. How can the same exact thing be passing through two different locations?  The short answer is there are things we don't understand and are attempting to put maths to.
 
 
2014/05/22 07:58:59
Soundblend
Starise

Soundblend- I think you're onto something, but things get fuzzy when you measure different things.Especially  small things. Take light for instance, It is described as both a particle and a wave in physics and it appears to be both. In the slit experiment light seems to simultaneously pass through both slits as  a wave and a particle and appears to excite itself on the other side of the plate. (ok guys hold the jokes)There are waves from the light and the sum of the waves is present as a difference and a combination. It is as if the light is the same coming through both slits, yet there are different outcomes on the other side. How can the same exact thing be passing through two different locations?  The short answer is there are things we don't understand and are attempting to put maths to.


Much of mesurements is not accurate or proper to what they need to measure
they simply dont know how, or miss an unknown third method of what need to measure
measurement will not be true, or it will be confusing, that is why it get Fuzzy.

Now light a (Photon) or any particle, can exist in several state's at once, (with higher energy levels)
or it's charge if you will use that.
A particle has a spin, it has it north and south pole, it has a charge and a vibration, they have fields.

If a electron is at 4th orbit of an atom, and it emits energy, a (photon), it loses vibration and drop down to
the 3rd orbit lvl in the atom.
You may get this electron up to the 4th or even higher depending on the charge it gets but not higher
than the atom itself allows.
All particles endeavours to consist in a stable state. (in order)

Unstable state is when, particles exchange energies, inhales or emits, or going from 1 state to another.

look at the atomic bomb, that is an un-controlled emission, creating ultra high vibrations
in the atoms ( atom core ), creating heat and radiation, and it finally burst in to a big boom !

look at the Atomic reactor creating electricity
it is the same process, but it is controlled by cooling the core down with water they prevent
the core (atoms) to vibrate to much.
that is an unstable, "controlled" state.


All particles vibrate, cause of they'r charge, we can call it their frequencies a ( wave )
With increased charge ( vibration ) the abilities of the particle get even more spectacular.
we can call that parallel states, the ability to be in the past , present, and future


Human use time to calculate happenings because we move sloooow, and it is limited to a low energy lvl
but in higher lvl of energies: time do not exist

Our mind's is limited to a certain size of information, or what we possible have a ability to reveal.

Well certain discoveries has been made by "mistakes" , we can call it luck.

Interesting i have never seen that Double Slit Experiment : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc

What amazes me is gravity and it's Source.  that is something i want to know more about.
Maybe we need to study the quark's for and ( gluons) for that.

Ever heard about the higg's field  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD6BRGgpnK0
Higg's Boson : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIg1Vh7uPyw

Your Mass is NOT From the Higgs Boson : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztc6QPNUqls

I would say one of the result of mass (m) : 

Is a charge (e) or (q , coloumb) of the particle, and a particle accelerated movement, velocity (v1 to v2)
the greater charge and velocity ( movement of the particle ), the greater it's mass compared
to other particles, or to the observer.
when it has reached its maximum, It will stay at a (e_stable) and (V_stable) and (m_stable)
until it reacts on to something and emits (looses) energy and mass.

but this is just another coarse result, and not the source of mass.

quarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxQwkdu9WbE

Now pardon me for my skills, but i just have 9 years of basic school
and the tiny stuff i know i have learned at the library when i had a basic quick interest for it.
But that dont mean that i have my own opinions and understanding of  physics.
2014/05/22 11:22:04
craigb
Soundblend
Now light a (Photon) or any particle, can exist in several state's at once, (with higher energy levels)
or it's charge if you will use that.

 
Particle or wave?  You decide! 
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