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2016/06/23 10:40:43
gamemastermb
    How can I convert TEXT events (viewable in event list ALT+4) to readable, printable LYRICS in Music Creator 2?  I have these nice neat text events that already line up perfectly with the melody notes, and they show (as lines) in the TRACK view but I can't copy them to paste under the notes. 
 
    They don't show up in the staff view (ALT+7) at all.  I can't copy them from the event list view (ALT+4).
 
    This is a downloaded file, so I don't know how they put the text events in to begin with.
 
    Thanks for any helpful suggestions.
2016/06/25 11:05:35
57Gregy
Welcome to the forum.
I don't know if actual lyrics are part of the MIDI standard, but events may be.
If the download was a .mid file, there may not be lyrics to display, because there are no lyrics in the MIDI standard. More research needed.
If the download was from a friend or collaborator using Cakewalk software, see if they can send you the project file, which will have the lyrics in it.
Have you tried the Lyrics view?
 
2016/06/26 08:52:35
gamemastermb
Hi, Greg,
    Thanks for the reply!
   The TEXT events exist in their own track.  They are not viewable in the LYRIC view (ALT+8).  When you try, it just shows as totally blank. Any other track without lyrics that you view this way would show a bunch of hyphens equal to the number of note events in that track.
In the TRACKS view they show the same as lyrics would, which is little vertical lines for each syllable, perfectly lined up with the melody notes.  In the EVENT LIST view (ALT+4) they read in a list just like a normal track would except they are blue colored
and
in
a
stack
ex-
act-
ly
like
this.
   I have copied and pasted the TEXT track with the melody - no luck.  When I do, they will coexist in the track view the way lyrics do, but are still invisible in the (ALT+7) STAFF view, (readable notes with lyrics, like a lead sheet, is my final goal). 
   I cannot select the text only from its track list, when I lasso them it takes the whole table so I can't capture them to paste into a lyric view for the melody track.  I have assigned the TEXT track to a MIDI channel, also no help.
   I know that I could just read the words from the event list view and just type them out, or download and paste them then go through all the note by note hyphenation to make them fit, (a long and tedious process) but they are already placed perfectly, if I can just figure out how to get them readable.
   Any ideas with this more complete explanation I have given?
2016/06/26 10:04:51
57Gregy
"The TEXT events exist in their own track"
 
But there are no notes in that track? The melody (MIDI data/notes) is on another track?
If that's the case, try selecting both the melody track and the text track and Bounce to Track(s). I believe in MC 2 that's under Edit.
2016/06/26 11:11:15
azslow3
You can try http://www.gnmidi.com/ (I have not tried it, but that is the only software ever mentioned in respect to this problem).
 
May be I will try to write yet another useful free plug-in to do this inside Sonar, which no one will ever use...
2016/06/26 13:09:21
azslow3
I have tried... with success.
 
So you can get it there: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,311.0.html (yet another my free useful Sonar plug-in which no one is going to use. Why it is free? why I have written it? I have no idea...)
2016/06/26 19:46:14
gamemastermb
Right, Greg, there are no NOTE events in the TEXT track I am talking about.  The BOUNCE suggestion was something new for me to try, but it only works with AUDIO clips not MIDI clips.  Thanks for the idea, though.
2016/06/26 20:28:31
gamemastermb
AZ, The GNMIDI does play the text, like a karaoke player, but will not do the type of conversion I am looking for.
And Norton wouldn't let me open the file from your link.  Danger, Will Robinson! 
Thanks for trying to help.
2016/06/27 04:11:35
azslow3
gamemastermb
AZ, The GNMIDI does play the text, like a karaoke player, but will not do the type of conversion I am looking for.
And Norton wouldn't let me open the file from your link.  Danger, Will Robinson! 
Thanks for trying to help.

The installer is not signed (as most free software). That is a matter of trust. I normally trust someone who communicates with me more than any "big name", but that is up to your.
 
Are you ready to pay $300 for the solution? That is the money I will have to pay to Microsoft/Verisign just to avoid the "Danger" warning you see.
 
 
 
2016/06/27 08:37:02
gamemastermb
Hi, AZ,
I don't understand the "signed" thing.  I appreciate the explanation, though. 
     Would the linked program work within Cakewalk Music Creator 2, or does it function totally independent of any other program, or does it have to be used in a SONAR program?  You mentioned that it was a SONAR plug-in. 
     (Forgive if these are elementary questions; I am a longtime player, but a real noob in this area).  I only have the Cakewalk program (and now I have GNMIDI also.)
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