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  • Just a demo of Symphony Series by Native.
2018/12/02 14:08:39
ØSkald
The song is not finish yet. It misses the vocal on these verses. The melody in not shown by any of the instruments.
 
Here is the Symphony in solo:
https://soundcloud.com/oyvind-skald/882-eg-veit-i-himmerik-ei-borg-0101-bare-orkester-pa-vers-4-6
 
Here is the Symphony with Metal band:
https://soundcloud.com/oyvind-skald/882-eg-veit-i-himmerik-ei-borg-0101-orkester-pa-vers-4-6
 

Well, I am working on to learn it's strengths and weakness. I hear it can be some kind of industrial sounding so I might toss this away.
 
But what I found out on my little experience, is that some of the instruments sound bad solo. And they sound bad outside their good register spot. So for this Orchestra pack, you have to play it, instead of trying to make it sound as what you have as an ideal. But mind you. I am not an Orchestra guy. You can hear that.
 
And 32 GB of RAM is not enough to run more than 8 of the instruments. Sonar crashed because of not enough RAM to read the sounds. You have to freeze all and just unfreeze the section you are working on, if your not having 64 GB. I might be looking into buying that… I am so happy I’m not married with kids.
 
Øyvind Skald, the not so famous skald
2018/12/02 22:35:32
ØSkald
I made some screen shots of the Task Manager to show RAM use!
 
 
 
Just a normal project with every Symphony Series instruments freezed:

 
Violin 1 open. This uses the whole violin 1 sound pack, (not just half the group, and not just some mick packs):

 
Also the Violin 2 pack is open:

 
Also the Viola pack:

 
Here with also the Cello open:

 
Here also with the bass open:

 
I dont think I can open any more without hitting my 32 GB limit.
2018/12/03 14:52:50
burgerproduction
Cool demo.
Some of the strings and drums sound a little too artificial for my tatstes, but I like the guitaring. Is that you playing?
The kick could really do with humanizing - sounds like my old 505.
2018/12/03 20:32:29
ØSkald
burgerproduction
Cool demo.
Some of the strings and drums sound a little too artificial for my tatstes, but I like the guitaring. Is that you playing?
The kick could really do with humanizing - sounds like my old 505.



Thanks.

I play it all myself. (exept female vocal)
 
I will look into the drums. And the strange thing is that drummers wants to play as even as possible, and we programmers want to make the drum sample use as many samples to diverse the hits as much as possible. But I will look into that.
 
The Drums are Superior Drummer 3 and the "Modern Metal High" preset. So I think it must be something in my programming and not the sounds. Maybe put down the velocity some?
 
And the 16th beet on the kick cam have two different goals. You have this accent of the 1-2-3-4 and the other is as even as possible to make this as a even stream of kicks. both is cool in their own way. The even one is maybe used most in extreme metal, but the one with accent is more used where 16th beat is not that common? Some extreme metal programmer use all hits at max completely quantized.
 
Half an hour later..!
 
Found out my midi on that project (not the one you hear in that mix because every instrument was freezed) was somehow quantized to 8th beat with duration. Every Midi track was damaged. I was sweating like crazy… But I remembered I have sent this project to a friend for demo a month ago. That project had the good Midi files. And I now have pasted the “backup” midi into the main project. And now its saved. Yeah.
 
But I tried to take down the velocity of the drum track. I took all down “8”, and all the drums sounds more easy to listen to. They were not at 128 but I think I remember I put on a “+ 20” vel sometime. And a drummer cant hit that hard on faster things. Especially blast beats. That is later in the song.
2018/12/05 22:20:01
eph221
I could never get those NI symphony series to sound any good.  You managed it well,.
2018/12/06 22:16:12
ØSkald
eph221
I could never get those NI symphony series to sound any good.  You managed it well,.


Thank you.
2018/12/07 02:04:19
emeraldsoul
I listened to the "full metal mix" and thought - what am I supposed to not like here? Very Cirque du Soleil. The strings were mixed a bit softly perhaps. The hi-hat maybe could have a brighter dusting of reverb.
 
Sounds fun. Sounds good! What's the existential problem here?   :)
 
What if anything are you going to do with this? Are you scoring a show or something?
 
cheers,
-Tom
2018/12/07 02:19:24
Wayfarer
I liked it a lot better in the context of the band. Things fit together very well.
 
Bill
2018/12/07 14:31:10
ØSkald
Thanks guys. Well its just a project I tossed away years ago. It has orchestra in it so I just revived it to play a little. I might just toss it away after this. The audience is so freaking used to listen to band that are 1 000 000 times better than me, so I have no plans of giving this out. I will newer be a “good enough” guitarist, I will newer be “good enough” to writer/programmer/producer. That’s not my goal anymore. My goal is just having fun. And releasing it would not be fun.
2018/12/07 14:37:51
Wayfarer
If that was you playing in the band song, I thought you played quite well myself. I'm not sure what you could have done better.
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