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2015/10/20 07:35:12
mettelus
I may have missed another way to do this, but in playing with patch points I ran into this issue:
  1. Create output from audio track to either an aux track or patch point.
  2. New track can be armed, and echoes, and mutes inputs by default to prevent feedback.
  3. With numerous audio tracks, I just want to hear the echoed aux track/patch point input track... so I solo it.
  4. Now I only hear the rest of the project... both the input track and aux track/patch point track are muted.
Did I miss something handy to isolate the rest of the project if I want to listen to only this one armed and echoed aux/patch point track? (Muting all other tracks is the only way I can see to do this... very painful, and three months from now isn't going to be remembered what is feeding where.)
2015/10/20 08:21:49
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
There is no special logic for mute and solo with patchpoints at this time, so if you want to solo just a patchpoint track you will need to manually solo all components or set up grouping of the solo buttons. We may improve upon this in the future.
Your step 4 doesnt seem right btw. If solo track that has a patchpoint input on its own you will get silence since the other sources are not soloed.
2015/10/20 10:13:10
brundlefly
Another option is to use Prefader sends to the Patchpoint that won't be muted by soloing the destination track. The main disadvantage of this workaround is that you'll have to use send levels to mix those signals. But it does let you solo the Patchpoint signal without also hearing the contributing tracks, which grouping won't.
2015/10/20 12:07:57
funk
brundlefly
Another option is to use Prefader sends to the Patchpoint that won't be muted by soloing the destination track. The main disadvantage of this workaround is that you'll have to use send levels to mix those signals. But it does let you solo the Patchpoint signal without also hearing the contributing tracks, which grouping won't.




This doent seem to be working for me. Any patch point / aux I create via the sends, then set to pre fader, still can't be heard when I solo the  destination
2015/10/20 12:09:43
funk
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
There is no special logic for mute and solo with patchpoints at this time



This feature is really cool, but I feel this is a huge oversight.
2015/10/20 12:23:57
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Its not an oversight. We were fully aware of this and plan to improve on it.
2015/10/20 12:36:20
funk
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Its not an oversight. We were fully aware of this and plan to improve on it.



OK thanks for confirming you have plans to improve this Noel! :) Your earlier quote did not sound like a definite plan, but only a possibility
 
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
We may improve upon this in the future.

 
Being able to solo the patch points/aux is very important. Especially if we want to use them to replace buses.
 
 
2015/10/20 14:35:04
brundlefly
funk
brundlefly
Another option is to use Prefader sends to the Patchpoint that won't be muted by soloing the destination track. The main disadvantage of this workaround is that you'll have to use send levels to mix those signals. But it does let you solo the Patchpoint signal without also hearing the contributing tracks, which grouping won't.




This doent seem to be working for me. Any patch point / aux I create via the sends, then set to pre fader, still can't be heard when I solo the  destination


Should work for audio tracks, but there will be complications if the tracks are soft synths because the MIDI will get muted. Also make sure you have the default LinkPFSendMute=0 in AUD.INI (or no entry because 0 is the default).
2015/10/20 15:02:31
funk
brundlefly
Should work for audio tracks, but there will be complications if the tracks are soft synths because the MIDI will get muted. Also make sure you have the default LinkPFSendMute=0 in AUD.INI (or no entry because 0 is the default).



Ah yes, it's working for audio tracks. Thanks for pointing that out. Unfortunately, I work almost exclusively with VSTis.
2015/10/20 19:52:18
joeb1cannoli
A bit of a work-around. Put all tracks and the Aux track that they are routed to in a folder. Hit the folder solo button.
I just did it on 5 backing vocal tracks sent to an Aux track. Works fine.
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