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2015/02/12 07:37:24
Leadfoot
Karyn
tenfoot
I have a Presonus Faderport - which frankly is terrible!

Interesting,  I have one and it works great.

Mine works great as well.
2015/02/12 08:35:14
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
There are a lot of people selling their vs-700c controllers these days ... You might want to see how cheap you could get one. This thing is capable of controlling almost anything in sonar ... And it has very few bugs (i am currently only aware of one issue but i can easily live without that feature) ... The closely tied integration is what makes me a really happy sonar user ...
2015/02/12 08:59:14
Anderton
tenfoot
I have a Presonus Faderport - which frankly is terrible!

 
You have to read the setup instructions really carefully and use the latest drivers. There are also MIDI parameters in SONAR that need to be enabled for it to work...maybe it's aftertouch or something like that.
2015/02/12 12:08:57
Leadfoot
Anderton
tenfoot
I have a Presonus Faderport - which frankly is terrible!

 
You have to read the setup instructions really carefully and use the latest drivers. There are also MIDI parameters in SONAR that need to be enabled for it to work...maybe it's aftertouch or something like that.

Yep. Key Aftertouch and Channel Aftertouch both have to be enabled, or you're gonna have trouble.
2015/02/12 12:34:07
brunovaltho
Oh thanks a lot guys for all your replies! Very usefull to me indeed!
2015/02/12 13:34:09
brunovaltho
Hi Tenfoot! I consider eventually the FaderPort. Can you jump without problem from one track to another? Can you jumps to the busses? Is it enough for making final mixes or would you like to have more faders?
I bought TouchDaw but I can't make it work without bugs; installed it as described on youtube; some knobs don't work and sometimes it freezes Sonar and I have to restart the computer. One of the bug is that you cannot unmute track 1 after you mute it.
Do you manage to make ti work? If yes how are you doing?
Behringer's X-Touch seems to be interesting but will it be fully compatible with Sonar? ...and it'll only be out for the end of the year.
I've looked at the VS 700 but they are too expensive in europe.
Thanks a lot!
2015/02/12 15:57:35
azslow3
aixmusajo
I bought TouchDaw but I can't make it work without bugs; installed it as described on youtube; some knobs don't work and sometimes it freezes Sonar and I have to restart the computer. One of the bug is that you cannot unmute track 1 after you mute it.
Do you manage to make ti work? If yes how are you doing?
Behringer's X-Touch seems to be interesting but will it be fully compatible with Sonar? ...and it'll only be out for the end of the year.

X-Touch will work  throw the same module is Sonar as TouchDAW does.
 
But TouchDAW by itself is not able to freeze something inside your computer by design. Check your rtpMIDI installation.
2015/02/12 22:02:07
tenfoot
Sorry - I should have qualified my remarks about the Faderport. It does work - I just find the controls clunky. The transport controls are all click switches. Prior to using it I had the Yamaha 01x which has really nice soft switch transport controls, automated faders and a large  jog shuttle. Unfortunately there are no 64bit drivers for it. The Faderport is also quirky if you load a project that was authored on a system with different midi device assignments. The project would freeze half way through loading, and the Faderport fader would stutter rapidly. Once you moved the fader, the project would continue to load, but the motorised fader would no longer function. I would have to correct the midi assignments, save the project, then remove and reinstall the Faderport under control surfaces in order for it to again utilise the motorised fader. It would seem the absent midi devices were causing a midi feedback loop on the Faderport channels. Not an issue if you always work on the one setup. I work on several so it was terribly annoying. I seem to recall that the driver installer was also clunky and convoluted. In my opinion not Presonus' finest hour. 
 
In answer to your question aixmusajo, the Faderport is really just a glorified transport control. I always found it easier to navigate using a mouse rather than the small clunky buttons. Like any controller, it was great to be able to rewind, play etc, even when sonar was not the active window (for example, working on lyrics or a wrapped vsti or audio effect) It seems to have plenty of fans here though, so perhaps I have just been spoilt by the Yamaha 01x. As to whether the Behringer will be compatible, only time will tell. I can tell you that I am using a Behringer X32 on my live rig. It has an embedded control surface function that works just fine with Sonar. Being a secondary function, however, it's layout is not ideal. If it's drivers and build quality are anything to go by though, the xtouch should be rock solid.
2015/02/12 22:46:50
John
I totally recommend the Mackie Control. It has become the default industry standard and works without a problem. Many other CSs emulate it in order to work with various software. Where the MC, MC Pro and MC Pro Universal have no need to use an emulation. 
 
2015/02/13 02:13:19
brunovaltho
No problem Tenfoot! Thanks for your detailled describtion! Thanks Aslow! I will try once again. Thanks John!
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