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2015/02/13 08:57:15
Dave Modisette
My Mackie MCU has been acting up but I wouldn't necessarily blame SONAR even though I can get it sorted out with Studio One 2 and then open a SONAR project and it says it can't find the Mackie and blames it on a Windows out of memory issue.
2015/02/13 09:30:45
Karyn
tenfoot
Sorry - I should have qualified my remarks about the Faderport. It does work - I just find the controls clunky. The transport controls are all click switches. Prior to using it I had the Yamaha 01x which has really nice soft switch transport controls..

Some folk find chunky buttons that go 'click' reassuring.  Others prefer those little rubber things where you don't know if you've actually pressed it or not.
 
I stopped using my BCF2000 because the faders were not touch sensitive and the noise was unbearable. The Faderport is "almost" silent and beautifully smooth.
 
If the X-Touch works as well as a Faderport I'll change in an instant, but I'll want to try one first...
2015/02/13 11:01:10
brunovaltho
Thanks Mod and Karyn! A lot of people waiting on the XTouch...
2015/02/13 11:08:07
brunovaltho
Karyn
tenfoot
Sorry - I should have qualified my remarks about the Faderport. It does work - I just find the controls clunky. The transport controls are all click switches. Prior to using it I had the Yamaha 01x which has really nice soft switch transport controls..

Some folk find chunky buttons that go 'click' reassuring.  Others prefer those little rubber things where you don't know if you've actually pressed it or not.
 
I stopped using my BCF2000 because the faders were not touch sensitive and the noise was unbearable. The Faderport is "almost" silent and beautifully smooth.
 
If the X-Touch works as well as a Faderport I'll change in an instant, but I'll want to try one first...


Hi Karyn!
Do you manage to go from one track to another easily? Can you jump to the busses? Does it work with another control surface?
Thanks!
 
2015/02/13 11:09:30
brunovaltho
tenfoot
Sorry - I should have qualified my remarks about the Faderport. It does work - I just find the controls clunky. The transport controls are all click switches. Prior to using it I had the Yamaha 01x which has really nice soft switch transport controls, automated faders and a large  jog shuttle. Unfortunately there are no 64bit drivers for it. The Faderport is also quirky if you load a project that was authored on a system with different midi device assignments. The project would freeze half way through loading, and the Faderport fader would stutter rapidly. Once you moved the fader, the project would continue to load, but the motorised fader would no longer function. I would have to correct the midi assignments, save the project, then remove and reinstall the Faderport under control surfaces in order for it to again utilise the motorised fader. It would seem the absent midi devices were causing a midi feedback loop on the Faderport channels. Not an issue if you always work on the one setup. I work on several so it was terribly annoying. I seem to recall that the driver installer was also clunky and convoluted. In my opinion not Presonus' finest hour. 
 
In answer to your question aixmusajo, the Faderport is really just a glorified transport control. I always found it easier to navigate using a mouse rather than the small clunky buttons. Like any controller, it was great to be able to rewind, play etc, even when sonar was not the active window (for example, working on lyrics or a wrapped vsti or audio effect) It seems to have plenty of fans here though, so perhaps I have just been spoilt by the Yamaha 01x. As to whether the Behringer will be compatible, only time will tell. I can tell you that I am using a Behringer X32 on my live rig. It has an embedded control surface function that works just fine with Sonar. Being a secondary function, however, it's layout is not ideal. If it's drivers and build quality are anything to go by though, the xtouch should be rock solid.


Very interreting Tenfoot!
Can you jump easily from one track to another? Do you use it with other controllers?
2015/02/13 11:11:06
brunovaltho
azslow3
aixmusajo
I bought TouchDaw but I can't make it work without bugs; installed it as described on youtube; some knobs don't work and sometimes it freezes Sonar and I have to restart the computer. One of the bug is that you cannot unmute track 1 after you mute it.
Do you manage to make ti work? If yes how are you doing?
Behringer's X-Touch seems to be interesting but will it be fully compatible with Sonar? ...and it'll only be out for the end of the year.

X-Touch will work  throw the same module is Sonar as TouchDAW does.
 
But TouchDAW by itself is not able to freeze something inside your computer by design. Check your rtpMIDI installation.


Hi Azslow,
Your plug seems to be very good! But have a lot to learn about midi langage...:(
Did you try TouchDaw?
2015/02/13 11:22:05
tenfoot
Agreed that the fader is quite smooth Karyn - but check out the faders on an x32 if you get a chance. I think you will be impressed. The faderport has been around for a few years now so it's not surprising that it's hardware is a bit dated. I guess it's horses for courses on those buttons. I don't need a loud click to know that I have pushed a button - I can tell when the transport moves
2015/02/13 11:23:52
WallyG
aixmusajo
...Behringer's X-Touch seems to be interesting but will it be fully compatible with Sonar? ...and it'll only be out for the end of the year.
 



I don't know if this means anything but this was posted by Uli Behringer on Gear Slutz, Jan 4th.
 
Dear all,

"allow me to clarify. 

The X TOUCH controllers should be shipping in Q1. We're sorry it took longer than expected but we did a redesign to make sure they will also work with our new X AIR digital mixers. 

This will not only allow you to control these mixers with your iPad or Android tablet, but the X TOUCH will now provide full tactile and motor fader control.

If you are at Namm, please drop by as we have working samples there.

I hope this helps.

Uli"
 
Somebody find something different?
 
Walt
2015/02/13 14:08:39
Karyn
tenfoot
Agreed that the fader is quite smooth Karyn - but check out the faders on an x32 if you get a chance. I think you will be impressed. The faderport has been around for a few years now so it's not surprising that it's hardware is a bit dated. I guess it's horses for courses on those buttons. I don't need a loud click to know that I have pushed a button - I can tell when the transport moves


My computer is all solid state,  the transport doesn't actually move..  
 
aixmusajo
Hi Karyn!
Do you manage to go from one track to another easily? Can you jump to the busses? Does it work with another control surface?
Thanks!

It has < and > to move between tracks and the same as bank buttons to switch between tracks, busses and outputs.
 
But I tend to have it sat next to my mouse.  I use the transport and ride the fader for recording automation, but most everything else I use the mouse.
2015/02/14 13:35:17
azslow3
aixmusajo
Your plug seems to be very good! But have a lot to learn about midi langage...:(
Did you try TouchDaw?

I have TouchDAW, I am working to make a preset for it (effectively, this "preset" is going to be normal Mackie Control).
I have not seen any freezes with is so far, either with My preset (not yet published, since it is incomplete for general use) nor with the original Mackie Control plug-in. I had several "disconnects", but that is related to my network.
 
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