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2015/05/18 11:02:37
Jimbo 88
I NEVER used console view for years...then my work situation changed and i realized I have to be as good of mixer as i am composer to survive...
 
Now that I am using it, I realize i was missing out on a lot of Sonar features and when you get to the mixing stage, a lot more efficient.
2015/05/18 11:16:06
olemon
Deon_C
You can rearrange tracks and buses from the console view. Just hold alt then click/drag a track/bus where you want it.



Thank you!
2015/05/18 13:49:47
Bflat5
I use 2 monitors with the console on one by itself with track view on the other.
2015/05/19 18:06:29
razor
Leadfoot
I use one monitor for track view, and one for console/multidock view.

+1
2015/05/19 18:15:03
Lynn
Deon_C
You can rearrange tracks and buses from the console view. Just hold alt then click/drag a track/bus where you want it.

You can do the same from the TV view without holding the Alt key, but I suppose you knew that.
2015/05/19 19:34:21
subtlearts
I use it and like it. I never used to, or would only occasionally crack it open to get an overview, but rarely. That changed a bit with the X series and the multidock, where it was so handy and instant I could flick it open with a keypress and so often did... and changed even more when I finally got around to putting up a second monitor. Now the console is pretty much open all the time on the second screen, undocked and maximized. The multidock gets edit windows and such. If I'm doing video that might be on the second screen and the console back in the dock. Depends. But I do use it, yes.
2015/05/19 19:51:47
...wicked
Never use it. If you remember, way back when Cake even touted an early SONAR version with "you'll need the console view again!" but a few versions later touted it's return with some beefed up graphics.
 
I don't see the point in it. Why emulate an old console whose controls (knobs mostly) do not translate well to a computer/mouse operation? Everything is visible in the track view, INCLUDING the actual audio and MIDI data, so why bother? Sure, it's a good exercise in "use your ears" but in the Track view you can actually SEE problems like spikes and missing notes and whatnot. If you can get your navigation down to a quick science you really fly in the track view.
 
I saw some people post about the pro-channel and not using it, I'm not one of those people. Having all my effects tucked away and able to be recalled using the "I" key is wonderful. I even try and stick with mostly SONAR based effects (including the most excellent BlueTubes effects now). I was worried my go-to choices would stagnate my sonic palette but that has not turned out to be the case, which means I can quickly dump fx chains onto tracks and build mixes up quickly. Which is good because I spend that recovered time doing automation, which in my mind is what separated the kids from the grown ups, especially with electronic music. And sure, you CAN record automation in the console view, and even edit it I suppose, blindly. Me? I much prefer the Track View where I can dig in there with the mouse and envelopes. 
 
There was all this hoopla last time around about the console view's new expanded fx bin and whatnot, being able to see more sends and fx. Meh, you can wheel scroll the Pro Channel yo! And with auto-track zoom you can make a track height enough to see all the sends you want. That second monitor? I don't put the console view on it, I just extend my Track view over it so I can see as much of the song as possible. It's great.
 
Now I just want Cake to at long last implement a centered Now time so I don't have to keep doing it manually. :-)
2015/05/19 20:52:36
skitch_84
I track and edit mainly in the track view (and PRV of course), and I do most of my mixing in console view, but I'll switch to the track view for certain things, such as duplicating a track, automation envelopes, etc. 
2015/05/19 22:59:03
karma1959
I always use the console view - for mixing and in combination with the track view for tracking.  It just feels easier / more natural to me.  I'm sure I could adjust and use only the track view if I had do, but I am comfortable with my dual monitor setup of having the tack view on one screen & the multidock on the other, which 99.99% of the time displays the console view. 
2015/05/19 23:29:19
Grem
Use the CV for mixing.

In the past I did use a second monitor for a long time. CV full screen on second monitor.

But since SkyLight UI came along ( and I got familiar with it) I just use one big screen. Hitting D is almost as second nature now as CTRL + S!
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