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2015/05/24 21:31:51
Larry Jones
Cookie Jarvis
Many of the projects I work on can get over 100 tracks and TV would be a nightmare!

I'm trying to picture 100 faders in the console view, and it looks like an equal nightmare to me. My projects rarely top 30 tracks, and with the console spread across two monitors (2560 pixels total), I have to scroll a lot to see both ends.
2015/05/24 22:31:35
Cookie Jarvis
I create busses for grouping and automation purposes(I do automation in TV ;) ). I like the fact that everything lines up- faders, pan, FX bin, everything is uniform so it's easy for me to work. To be honest I bounce back and forth between TV and CV a lot! :)
 
Bill
2015/05/25 03:43:43
mudgel
RexRed
bapu
So the OP asks who NEVER uses the console view and he gets a flood of rationalizations for using it.
 
The internet. Meh!


hehe, I think I posted this discussion because I was just wondering if I was missing something by not using CV.. I welcome all of the various answers and they are very insightful!


So there bapu. Nyeh nyeh!
2015/05/25 04:17:18
TomHelvey
I use the console view as soon as possible. Once I'm done with sound design, arrangement, and composition, I want to concentrate on the mix. I don't want to see any of those other details unless something doesn't sound right.
2015/05/25 10:23:12
Cactus Music
It depends on the project. 
For Clients, which is normally more audio than midi, I use the CV at the final mixing. Once I'm at that stage I have no reason to return to a track for editing. But fine tuning a mix is easier for me in CV. Pan knobs make more sense in that orientation as example. After more than 30 years of working with that orientation I feel more in control. I think this is the biggest part of the reason for most of us. 
 
In track view I put all my Soft synth at the very top. That way in CV they can be made narrow and take up less room. Or hidden if the project gets big. I make all tracks that don't use effects sends narrow. I use colour to group instruments. And yes the client now see's something that makes them feel they are in a studio finally. 
 
But I don't bother with CV when I'm just making a backing track or a simple project. Those only have a few tracks so no need to use CV. 
2015/05/25 10:55:53
mudgel
So many work flows for one program, and possibly more. I think I'll revisit my workflow. Lots of good ideas here.
2015/05/25 10:59:58
joel77
Yes, many useful ideas!
 
I use both, btw.
2015/11/06 15:31:06
DJ Darkside
I use most views available in Sonar with the use of the 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 keys on my keyboard to jump between the different layouts I have set up for certain things in my work flow.
2015/11/06 17:12:43
arlen2133
Cactus Music
 After more than 30 years of working with that orientation I feel more in control. I think this is the biggest part of the reason for most of us. 


+1
Worked as a mix engineer for a while so the console view definitely resonates with me.
As I've moved more toward using VSTs and DAWS in composition, the track view has been an awesome "addition" to my workflow. 
Here's how I work...
I begin a composition in track view toggling between TV and PRV and CV via the "D" button (as Craig mentioned).  While I'm on the multi-dock, the tab key moves me between PRV and the console view.  Once the composition is complete, I transition most of the mix duties to the console view.  I continue to use the track view (sparingly) for automation and clip edits, but most of the heavy lifting really is carried on in console view. 
 
By the way, I've tried screensets (and generally like them), however I think they are a tad slow. 
Waiting for an update to them so I can incorporate them more into my workflow.
2015/11/06 18:26:34
Doktor Avalanche
arlen2133
By the way, I've tried screensets (and generally like them), however I think they are a tad slow. 
Waiting for an update to them so I can incorporate them more into my workflow.


Never thought of that but you've banged the head on the nail here. Totally agree.
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