2015/05/03 02:58:41
Alex B.
Hello,
My question is probably a bit stupid (and my english not very well).
Will Gibson (Tascam) released a completely integrated surface for Sonar as Roland had done with the VS-700? Is there had new hardware produced from the takeover of Cakewalk ?
 
Thank you :)
2015/05/03 04:11:50
TerraSin
I don't believe it would be a good business decision to release something like the VS-700. Sonar is too customizable now and changes too rapidly to put out a piece of hardware that is designed for Sonar specifically.

That said, will TASCAM put out a control surface with Sonar in mind? Maybe, but I doubt it will raise the bar against competition. Especially when a lot of people have their eyes now set on X-Touch. I'm good with my VS-700 though for a while I think. Still works really well as a hardware controller.
2015/05/03 16:18:40
listen
It would be nice to see something, but until - find a used VS-700 it does integrate very well until there are other specific options....
2015/05/04 02:27:02
mudgel
I think the joining of all these businesses is still too young to bring about such products. I think Henry has been wise to give Cakewalk the opportunity to solidify as a brand and get control of the Sonar development process to bring about such great releases as X3 and now Sonar with its membership program.

BUT we also don't know what is in the development pipeline from Tascam that may be married to Sonar sometime in the future.. Already Tascam has brought driver development in house and the benefits are tangible in their new products as well as reinvigorating some not so old products.
2015/05/04 08:09:22
tlw
The problem with hardware dedicated to a particular software application is that the hardware is often quickly made obselete by changes in the software. Or the software is not changed so it retains compatibility with the hardware.

Personally I think Cakewalk should consider developing an iPad/tablet app for remote control of Sonar along the lines of the iPad app for remote control of Logic Pro.
2015/05/04 09:30:27
BobF
tlw
The problem with hardware dedicated to a particular software application is that the hardware is often quickly made obselete by changes in the software. Or the software is not changed so it retains compatibility with the hardware.

Personally I think Cakewalk should consider developing an iPad/tablet app for remote control of Sonar along the lines of the iPad app for remote control of Logic Pro.



What tlw said ^^^^
 
Having different products married makes for ugly divorces in the future.  I would much prefer having different products conform to industry standards for a more organic integration, while still leaving options available to purchasers down the road.
2015/05/04 09:44:56
Anderton
I think Cakewalk would do best by pursuing touch control as opposed to hardware. Less investment for them, more longevity for users compared to a dedicated control surface.
2015/05/04 15:41:51
TerraSin
I think Cakewalk would do best by pursuing touch control as opposed to hardware. Less investment for them, more longevity for users compared to a dedicated control surface.

I made some suggestions about that not too long ago. The link in that thread went to a page of some guy who had designed a pretty incredible mobile interface for use in Sonar but it seems he abandon it as he's not made any updates in a while. I still believe that something official by Cakewalk would work better in the long run.
2015/05/04 16:51:30
bapu
tlw
Personally I think Cakewalk should consider developing an iPad/tablet app for remote control of Sonar along the lines of the iPad app for remote control of Logic Pro.

Anderton
I think Cakewalk would do best by pursuing touch control as opposed to hardware. Less investment for them, more longevity for users compared to a dedicated control surface.

What the red headed stepchild called Android.


No one sees the irony of an ipad app for a Windows product?
 
2015/05/04 17:02:22
azslow3
Anderton
I think Cakewalk would do best by pursuing touch control as opposed to hardware. Less investment for them, more longevity for users compared to a dedicated control surface.

Whatever way CW goes with remote control, they need working CS API. Current one is outdated (no matrix, ProChannel part is implemented just as a hack to make VS somehow work, ACT is completely broken in VST3, just to mention major issues). Either iPad, XTouch or anything else except remote desktop is not going to work well till that is done.
 
But there is a silence since long time. Even worse, in the "era" of Komplete Browser they have managed to produce a synth without possibility to change patches from controller. RP does not even react on Program Changes. Let me know in case I have overseen something.
 
For the hardware. If Tascam produce something with X touch sensitive motor faders, Y touch sensitive push encoders (+1 "big" one for jogging), Z buttons and may be some alphanumeric display and send it to me, I can integrate it at least on the level of VS-700. In 2 weeks. For free. And users can customize the result for personal needs. Deal?
 
I have finished Faderport, close to the end with Alphatrack, unclear where with MCU... But I do not think I will continue with devices I never had (and will never have) in my hands.
 
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