iamjcole
Thanks Daibhidh and Grem! 
 
 
Art is subjective. We won't stand for harassment or bullying on BandLab but we try not to censor or police the music posted.
 
That's the nature of art and music.  
 

 
Point well made. And I agree. Thanks for taking to time to help us understand.

bdickens
Copyright law varies greatly from country to country. Here in the US, a work is automaticaly copyrighted as soon as it is put into some tangible form (in this case, either written or recorded). Of course, in the event of an infringement action, you have to be able to prove that you own the rights. And it is unlikely that any attorney will take your case unless you have registered with the Copyright office.

Somehow I get the impression the OP thinks using a 'paid' license Sonar Platinum automatically makes a creation copyrighted.
Lets say you have an idea to write a song on paper but no pen. Aha, you see a pen laying there, so you pick it up and use it to write your idea. Then someone comes along and read your poem and says, "I like it-but that is my pen you used-which means I own the poem"

You can`t copyright chords, rhythm or song titles. Only melodies and lyrics can be fully protected by copyright :-) 

@Bobby
 
That is a bummer for sure.
But As mentioned by others and I will elaborate on it: Just use the Desktop software. You are only denying yourself bug fixes and enhancements if you don't. As most of us and you probably have done is leave Plat orig installed to maintain plugs, etc and use the upgraded CWbyBL
 
Just a thought. Yes I would be bummed also.

stratman70
@Bobby
 
That is a bummer for sure.
But As mentioned by others and I will elaborate on it: Just use the Desktop software. You are only denying yourself bug fixes and enhancements if you don't. As most of us and you probably have done is leave Plat orig installed to maintain plugs, etc and use the upgraded CWbyBL
 
Just a thought. Yes I would be bummed also.

To be fair he enabled forking, and the lack of a block was a bug that BL is investigating

For sure the process is not very straight forward if you're new to Bandlab.  Many have pointed out that their uploads end up in the wrong category, or they didn't know it was forkable, etc.  Again, we would like to see Bandlab have more instructions/guidance on what to do with it.
 
The blocking issue aside, I think it really needs to be pointed out that anything you do on the internet at any time is subject to things you might not like, whether it's piracy, defamation, or just flat out trolling.  There are some good things Bandlab can do to help maintain a healthy community, however it's not their fault somebody else took your project and did something with it you don't like.  You're the one who posted it.  And really, if you think about it....it should be flattering that someone outside of your genre was inspired by your art.  THAT is really what Bandlab is about.
 
Dave

To be clear, posting your work to BandLab is not exactly identical to using a creative commons license, although it does involve granting various licenses. It is unfortunate that BandLab has decided to use their own jargon (forking) to describe the process of inviting collaboration. It is even more unfortunate that users will not immediately recognize that this process, in addition to inviting "collaboration," effectively licenses the creation of derivative works. Once you give someone permission to alter your work, he has the right to copyright his variation in its own right, and lacking specific language in the license, you largely lose any ability to restrict his use or publication of the derivative work. In countries where a non-transferable "moral right" to maintain the artistic integrity of your work is recognized, you may be able to limit egregiously damaging modification, but in US law at least, moral rights are only recognized for certain works of visual arts.
 
Whether BandLab will recognize your concerns is largely an issue of company policy, but arguably the work once altered under the license terms on their site will probably be considered to be a derivative work created under a valid license which you have no right to rescind. They may remove it from their site, but the author who in good faith (at least to his belief that he had a valid license) messes up your song will likely be able to do anything he wants with his version for the duration of his newly minted copyright. 
 
If you have not spent an adequate amount of time reading and understanding the terms of service and related binding legal contracts issued by various online posting sites, you are well advised not to post your material on them.
 
Rather than repeat an earlier post on this and other issues see:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3742329
 

slartabartfast
.... It is unfortunate that BandLab has decided to use their own jargon (forking) to describe the process of inviting collaboration...

Forking is a pretty commonly used term, as is branching, or even the term "fork a branch"... maybe not as much in music collaboration, but it is very common in OpenSource code collaboration and I suspect other collaborative projects: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_(software_development)
 
M.

Well for fork sakes..the only forking I ever done was into my mouth and throwing the odd straw bail around. Some of these names and terms should be kept were they belong and lets just call it what it is. Share? Don't Share?

Schafe
Well for fork sakes..the only forking I ever done was into my mouth and throwing the odd straw bail around. Some of these names and terms should be kept were they belong and lets just call it what it is. Share? Don't Share?

Sharing isn't quite the same though... I can share a song with you so you can listen to it, but does that mean I've given you permission to take it apart and create your own song based on it? I'd say no it doesn't.
 
That's what forking means: you "fork" your own version of the song based on an original.
 
So if I allow forking, I'm saying, "Go ahead and help me finish this, or do your own version".
 
From what the OP says, I'm not totally convinced he actually enabled forking. I've shared 3 songs so far, but only allowed forking on one of them - so this process works as far as enabling one and not the other.
 
What I read from Bobby's post was someone had copied his song another way. Which does raise an interesting scenario... if your song is shared for listening but NOT for collaboration, but someone samples it to get around that restriction, what protection do you have?
 
M.