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2006/09/03 09:56:23
randy
cjlinus,
I will look at the settings in the laptop that I use as well as my desktop and post back.
Give me a little while, your suggestion about detailed description and attempts is good. This type of info is what makes things work out for the better.

I recently did a session that lasted over 4 hours, constantly stoping and starting everything went well. So I know that the mixer will work.

randy
2006/09/03 11:40:42
bvideo
cjlinus,
I am very interested in this hyperspace playback thing (my workaround is sad because it makes Cakewalk work w/ only one CPU). You say you had the problem on your laptop, not your desktop, then fixed it by adding a pcmcia card. Now I am curious - do you know what 1394 chips, hence drivers, are in those three scenarios (1-desktop, 2-laptop, 3-pcmcia card)? In my case, the chipset is TI OHCI compliant 1394a. The connector on mine is 6-pin, but ... hyperpspace playback anyway.
Thanks,
Bill B.
2006/09/04 06:57:38
keefykeef
Hi I'm a newb, looking for help with my multimix too.

I've had so many problems, and the forum has helped so much (and Alesis technical support has not!). I am unfortunately in the UK so haven't been able to speak to them by phone but their emails have been very scarse and very slow!

The first problem I had was with my firewire card. I purchased a new TI one, and can now record without it skipping (which was my first problem).

I have a PC and a Laptop. The PC was built for recording music and the laptop for browsing the internet, they're both of similar spec. (1gb RAM, 40Gb SATA Hard Drive, AMD 2800 processor, Service Pack 2, NET Framework 1.1 etc.).

Strangely, everything works perfectly and as it should do on my laptop (4 pin firewire) but not on my PC (6 pin firewire).

The problem I have on my PC is playback, recording is now fine.

On my PC, I've set it up with exactly the same settings as my laptop, hoping it would work. I've tried in both modes (WDM and ASIO). In ASIO, it won't play at all (just freezes when I click "play"), and in WDM, it works for a while but then it just stops, and it'll only start playing again when I go in to the Multimix control panel and either click "Set Clock Master" or change one of the other settings and then change it back. Then it works fine for a few seconds, and then it just stops again etc...

Very frustrating, and very strange - how can it work on my laptop but not on my PC when they're both configured the same?

I bought my Multimix on ebay so cannot return for a refund. Am desperately hoping I can get it to work as it should.

I would like to help any others that have problems out there with this product as far as I can, as I've been fiddling with it for a week and learnt a bit!

I'm using Acid Pro 6.0 for recording

Many Thanks
Keith
2006/09/04 12:39:31
randy
Keith sent you this reply.

Hi Keith, always good to hear from other Sonar users. I posted some pictures
in the thread of the MultiMix control panel and Sonar's audio options
(Laptop and Desktop). The only thing was the host I used, picturetrunk.com
is expanding their site and didn't show up last night.

I am going to attach them to this email so you can look at them maybe they
will help you out. The settings are a little different for the Laptop and
Desktop, I never really noticed that till now. Hope this is a help.

Just a thought, but make sure that in Sonar the template you use is set to
the same settings as the MultiMix Control Panel. I record in 48hz and 24bit.
If Sonar is not set the same as the MultiMix Control Panel then Sonar will
freeze, these settings have to be the same as the ones that you used to
record the project with. You need to change it in Sonar's Audio settings
before you load a project, you will also have to close Sonar and open it
again before the settings will take effect.

randy
2006/09/04 19:39:18
cjlinus
Randy,

Thanks for posting the settings, I hope they show up soon. I'm kind of wondering if alot of the problems people are having are related to not having the MultiMix control pannel and Sonar/Acid/GuitarTracks settings the same. I am wondering if you leave the WMD box checked and if you've used the Sonar specific settings as described by Alesis. Is there any advantage you know of with using kernel streaming?

Bill,

Please check and make sure that both the mixer and Cakewalk are set the same. The problems I've seen with both recording and playback seem to be related to the settings not matching.
2006/09/05 09:01:23
randy
Ok, went to another host. Try the links, they are working for me. If there is a problem post back and let me know.

randy
2006/09/05 20:06:28
wystan
Hi Bill.

Thanks for your suggestion. For now it seems to have worked. I set up the same song and recorded four simultaineous drum tracks. I recorded, erased, and re-recorded 20 or 25 times just to test it. It never missed a beat. The fact that I was using only one half of the CPU didn't seem to affect it other than I decided to turn off any realtime effects (Waves) that I had on vocals. There did seem to be more of a strain on the usage. Other than that, I didn't have a problem. One other thing. Before I got your post, I decided to check for updates on the alesis, and there was an update 1.04 I think, that I hadn't installed. That update was primarily geared toward Multimix 12 and 16, but I installed it anyway. Well, it went through its found new hardware routine three times like before. Shortly after, I found your post and did as you suggested. I don't know that the update was relevant, but I thought I'd mention it.


Thanks again.

Wystan

2006/09/05 20:38:53
cjlinus
Randy,

My settings are slightly different than yours. I've decided to mainly use 44.1/16 because for what I'm doing bumping up sample rate won't matter much. I have unchecked WDM on the control panel. I can't quite figure out what that applies to but my mixer is using so I'm going to leave it that way.
Do you have the 12 or 16 channel? I'm recording small rock band demo kinds of stuff now and am wondering if the extra buss would give me an advantage I don't have now. What kinds of projects are you working on. Actually that question is open to anyone. Please comment.
2006/09/06 09:12:37
randy
cjlinus, I bought the 16 channel but have only used 8 at one time. I recorded a choir back in July lasted a little over 4 hours, stopped started deleated tracks but no problems during the recording.

I think the same as you on the settings thing, people need to make sure they are the same for the Multimix control panel as they are for their recording program, whatever they use. I started using a Delta 44 card and learned this pretty quick from experance with it and reminders from others here.

About the only thing I change in the MultiMix control panel is the buffer size and the sample rate, but if it is not set the same as Sonar then I have a problem.

I usually do acoustic guitar, vocals stuff like that.

Sometimes its is nice to have someone to look at your problem, they may have already had the same thing happen to them. Sometimes a fresh idea about a problem is all you need.

randy
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