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  • Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire (p.22)
2007/08/22 08:07:58
Mooch4056
NEVERMIND........


I have 12 inputs.....its confusing as all hell how they have it set up and what I have to select on the asio panel -- but I tested and re-tested...and there are indeed 12 separate channels capable of tracking and recording 12 seperate tracks at the same time.

Well it was a pain in the aZZ, but after messin with it on and off for 4 months and with the new driver update ...it does seem to do what it is suppose to do......

if any of you are having problems figuring out what mics line up with what inputs to get you the 12 seprate channels Pm me or catch me through email...basically the first four channels can not be broken up into left and right seprate TRACKS....you know... the good the ones with the power amps....could only be used for stereo input ...or mono.... THE LEFT AND RIGHT CHANELS COULD NOT BE INSERTED INTO ONE TRACK SEPERATE....BASIC OUTLINE BELOW

channels 4-8 could be used for either or and broken up into each left and right input into its own track for a total of 8 inputs there.....

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channels 1-4 = tracks 1-4 -- trying to break up the left and right inputs only pans things on the track left or right

channels 5-8...WILL ALLOW YOU TO break up the left and right inputs into seprate tracks for your other 8 tracks.... but you don't get the built in pre- amps....

if that doesnt make sense and you own one of these ...contact me.....

and the way they have it laid out on the input menu is just hard on the eyes and confusing..... (shakes head)

but hey -- IT FINALLY WORKS RIGHT!
2007/08/22 10:28:51
bvideo
Most likely the 7 channels are stereo channels, six for the inputs and one for the mix, and then one for the output. You could confirm this in Sonar when you assign inputs to a track - see what choices you get. It should give you 21 choices for input, left, right, and stereo for 6 inputs and the main mix.
Hey, too bad a firmware update doesn't give knobs!
Bill B.
2007/10/26 06:11:15
unkleMartinD28
Hey everyone, new here>>> but not to the MM16 problems. But it can work great when it does!!!

First off: Does anyone have the original drivers from when the units first came out that they could email me? I sent a pc in for repair and left the disk in <damnit, of course not getting it back...> The drivers from 2005 were the only ones I've ever gotten to work.

2. the fast weird warped playback issues, Ive only recently encountered them when using more than 4 tracks, I increased latency and also went back to using my pc's soundcard out for monitoring instead of the mm16 for monitoring (I believe that had more to do with it). I have not had a problem with it since and have gone as far as 12 tracks of playback all edited heavily with effects.

3. I updated to the latest driver package and behold!!! I am missing all the drivers, just have a controll panel. I have encountered this many times before and this time I have not found a workaround. I have followed all the steps to the letter, and my system is up to date. I have never got the downloaded drivers to ever work and have only been able to have a stable system off the cd.

___ Contacted alesis>>> DO they even use their own product??? And apparently according to them , their system is compatible with everything under the sun and they never have problems. Whatever.

Thank all of you for posting your thoughts on getting the MM to work. When it works , it works great!!!

My setup:
Laptop
XP home Sp2/dot net 1.1
Amd ath 64 2.8 ghz.
2 gig ram
1394 pci card
100 gig HD 7200 rpm (this was an upgrade which really helped my performance, i previously had a 4400 rpm HD)

Samplitude pro 8.0

(I have found this to be very stable for the multimix for 2 yrs now. I tried cakewalk/sonar/cubase to no avail. For those of you that may not be able to afford Samplitude pro, they make a low end version callled Magix music studio (about 30-40$ US) whisch isnt too bad at all but is lacking on channels in(I used it for 5yrs and loved it before upgrading) and has also been stable on my system, or if you look on ummmm- torrent anyone?)

Multimix >pc setup
firwire from mm>1394 pci card>Samplitude
drivers:
PLayback- conexant ac audio
Recording- MM channels in
use headphone channel from mm for can monitoring while playing (or substitute powered monitors in place of phones)
use headphone out of pc for playback monitoring (which can be routed into the mm as an analog signal or powered monitors instead of dig through the firewire cable)


When you give, You begin to live
~DJM
2007/10/26 08:26:35
unkleMartinD28
EUREEEKA!!!!!

OK To get MM firewire installed and working follow these steps <Call alesis support, wait till they pick up, Scream and throw phone angrily against wall, hang up>
***put your driver pack download on a usb stick/cd/external drive- anywhere but on your pc*****

1. Uninstall mulitimix from add/remove programs. There will be 2 instances of Multimix in there. One is multimix control panel, the other is the Alesis driver pack. Make sure you get them both!!

2. open sytem settings, go to hardware, remove Alesis Multimix

3 Here is where it changes. OPEN SEARCH MENU, type in Alesis>>> (3A)Delete everything from them (there will be .dll files and system 32 files, nuke them all!! (3B) perform search for multimix and proceed to delete everything related as you did above.

4. Power down the Multimix

5. Power down PC

6.Start up- you now have an alesis free system, get your gig stic/ usb drive/cd that you placed your drivers on, or get them from alesis again and Follow their clean install instructions, or just continue

7 install MM drivers, let it go through its initial cycle

8 Power on Multimix, light a candle, get on your knees and pray to God, Allah, Buddha or whatever supreme being you may believe in to help you and your pc should now cycle through the 4, YES count them FOUR cycles, <mm channels in/out/main etc..> and you should be good to go


If this doesn't work, or you crash down the road, remember to use search and find everything related to alesis/MM and delete/nuke them.

I hope this helps all of you

I am running old drivers, I think the new ones suck, though I did get them to work, I uninstalled and went back to my comfort zone with the old ones, thankfully i had them backed up, just took forever to dig through all my drives. Anyone in need of older versions, email or pm and Ill send them.

Peace and good luck!!
2007/10/26 10:22:46
Ed Dixon
Entered in error. Sorry didn't notice this was 8 pages long until after I replied. I should know better than to get on these forums first thing in the a.m.

UncleMartinD28, I do have the original drivers, will see what I can do about mailing them. I have to find the disk first (shouldn't be hard), I'll look for it while the coffee is cooking.
2007/10/26 10:52:14
Ed Dixon
JUst sent the drivers Josh, 8 files attached to the email a little over 2 mb. couldn't do it from here so I used the contact info on your webpage.

Ed

Dang I did it again. after I sent the drivers I see that you already have them, oh well coffee's almost done.
2007/10/28 11:14:42
unkleMartinD28
ED,
Thanks so much!!! I'm saving theses for backups, and in case anyone else ends up needing them.

Once again, thanks!!
2007/11/05 15:53:43
m00ney
Hey, guys!
Just to start off, I have had very little problems with my Alesis Multimix12 fire wire. I usually just mess around with the buffer speed until my computer is happy and everything is smooth.
My question for you all is this :
I just bought a firewire hard drive from Western Digital, 320 gb, specifically for recording. I would like to use the other firewire port in back of the mixer for my hard drive, so I don't need to write right to my computer's hard drive. Audio can get kind of meaty in size so that's why I know I would have a more stable system if I write right to my fire wire external hard drive. I haven't really tried that hard yet, but I was juit wondering if any one could give me the steps of doing this. Do I need to download some drivers? Will the Alesis recognize the drive when I record and write to the external rather than my computer? Please any information would be greatly appreciated.
2007/11/12 12:14:38
JPPOLECAT
This forum was very helpful! I'm considering buying a multimix 12 so heres what I sum up

I may have driver install problems but If I use suggestion here 90 % chance it will eventually work!

Don't Call Alesis 's help line better info here

Patience It may work right out of the box but expect to frig with it!

When it and if works it will work great! ? I hope

Now the only question is do I want channel inserts? if so Phonic Helix FW alesis doesn't have them!

I think it sums it up have I missed anything?
2007/11/12 13:18:59
SteveJL
test. pls ignore
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