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  • Alesis MultiMix 16 FireWire (p.30)
2009/07/01 10:31:48
bill52pa
Hey all, here I am two years on, with all latest drivers and hardware flash and still not working!!! What a load of swindlers at Alesis!! Have tried to get it working on three systems and no joy, works occasionally and then just disappears. Has anybody else had any positive joy??
2009/07/01 10:35:16
bill52pa
Hey all, here I am two years on, with all latest drivers and hardware flash and still not working!!! What a load of swindlers at Alesis!! Have tried to get it working on three systems and no joy, works occasionally and then just disappears. Has anybody else had any positive joy??
2009/07/01 10:58:32
bvideo
Bill,
My Alesis MM16-FW has been working OK since Sonar 7.0.3 and the Alesis drivers of January 2008. Alesis and two other major companies have a shared history of poor driver interaction with Sonar. I've found that the Alesis drivers peaked in Jan 2008 and later versions have not worked quite as well.

In your case, I suspect that no drivers will help. At its worst, my MM16-FW never "disappeared". The symptom of disappearing is more likely that your particular Alesis, or perhaps its power supply, is more defective than average.

Bill B.
2009/07/01 11:10:55
bill52pa
Hey Bill B,

Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear somebody has has success. I suppose I'll try yet again, you never know, I might get lucky. Actually, perhaps you can advise me on something. It is relevant to my Alesis problem and the route I have taken since. See below a post I made on another topic. I want more inputs for recording as I cannot use the Alesis. Any ideas would be appreciated.

cheers,

Bill

This is my other post:
Hey Guitarhacker,

Hello from London, England. I have a scenario I am trying to figure out and have seen your website which led me to think you might be able to advise me. I notice you have a Focusrite Saffire interface. Here is my problem, maybe someone could suggest another way to do this (as cheaply as possible, already spent a fortune on stuff that does not do the job

I am using Sonar 7 Producer. I have various Line6 devices but the one I am currently using is the new UX2 Studio. I record mainly with another guitar player. I want to be able to input two guitars and two mics at same time and then assign each ins/mic to a track in Sonar. The problem with the UX2 Studio is that I can only input a max of two items at the same time (I think???) So, I could have two guitars or one guitar and one mic. It looks like the Focusrite device you have might allow me to get my ideal input configuration (two guitars and two mics each assigend to their own track in Sonar). I also have an Alesis Firewire 12 mixer which I bought at great expense which was supposed to be able to do the job but I have never been able to get it working. even support at Alesis were no help (useless in fact!).

Another option/question: I also have a Line6 POD XT Live and Line6 UX1. Is it possible to use two sound cards at the same time in Sonar thus giving more inputs? I read somewhere that it is possible but not using ASIO drivers (WDM I think?). The problem is, I really want to use the ASIO drivers coz I'm using BFD2 drums and EZdrummer as well.

I know that is a bit of a mouthful but, any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!!
2009/07/01 11:34:32
bvideo
Bill,
Sorry, I don't have much helpful advice in this area. On paper, your Alesis would have been a good choice.

As far as using two separate sound cards, there is one major hazard, besides the limitations of ASIO: two independent sound cards don't normally sample in a synchronized way. This can cause the two recordings to play back out of sync. The only approach that really works in this scenario is when the cards can have their sample clocks synced, either by slaving one to another or slaving them all to a third party.

There may be some other existing threads with suggestions for multichannel interfaces that work well, or start one.

Bill B.
2009/07/01 11:38:18
bill52pa
Hey Bill B,

Thanks again for the speedy reply. Yes, I heard about that issue of syncing. Shame about the Alesis. Back to the drawing board.

Cheers,

Bill
2009/07/16 13:37:02
sigmeda
Will wonders never cease? I didn't see this mentioned elsewhere, but Alesis has released Beta drivers for the Firewire 16 for XP/Vista 32bit and 64bit. Came out June 11.

Download here:
http://www.alesis.com/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/1173/tt/5

I haven't tested, but will once my gear is setup again (busy moving)
--sigmeda
2009/07/16 16:12:42
bvideo
I tested the ASIO portion a bit last month using Sonar 8.3.1.
There are differences in the control panel (the given list of buffer sizes doesn't offer all the previous choices, but you can type in a buffer size).
Measured latency at any given buffer size is a bit lower.
However, dropouts at any given buffer size are much more likely.
The above observations are compared to the Jan 2008 drivers, running on a core i7-based system. I did not test WDM at all.
I have returned to the Jan 2008 drivers, as the current drivers do not perform as well at low latency.

Interested to hear other people's experience.

Bill B.
2009/07/20 02:17:42
bill52pa
Hey Sigmeda,

Thanks for the info. Will give it a try. You wouldn't believe it though, I just bought an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra and it works perfectly first time. I have all of the inputs I now need and does what I ahd hoped the Alesis was going to do. Can't believe how easy the M-Audio kit installed and up and running immediately.

Cheers,

Bill
2010/02/05 15:20:01
BraydonHarris
Sorry to bring back a dead forum but I was wondering if anyone is using a mac?
I'm have a problem where my computer isn't detecting the alesis 16 firewire mixer at all
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