• SONAR
  • Old annoyance, or maybe my process is wrong (p.2)
2015/11/06 18:14:56
PeterMc
I can reproduce this. I think the issue is that there is a "current track" and a "selected track" (or tracks), and these don't have to be the same. It is possible to have one track selected, and another track as the current track. Selecting a track makes it the current track, but clicking on the track icon makes this track the new current track without changing the selected track.
 
Pasting a clip adds it to the current track, not the selected track. If the current track is a bus, it simply doesn't turn up.
 
Cheers, Peter.
2015/11/06 18:41:26
Beepster
PeterMc
I can reproduce this. I think the issue is that there is a "current track" and a "selected track" (or tracks), and these don't have to be the same. It is possible to have one track selected, and another track as the current track. Selecting a track makes it the current track, but clicking on the track icon makes this track the new current track without changing the selected track.
 
Pasting a clip adds it to the current track, not the selected track. If the current track is a bus, it simply doesn't turn up.
 
Cheers, Peter.




Based on what I did earlier the pasting should happen in the selected track... not the "current" or "in focus" track. I went out of my way to try pasting with another track "in focus" and the paste landed in the selected track (not the newly in focus track).
 
There may be some hiiden settings somewhere that cause different results for different cofigs though.
2015/11/06 19:45:37
PeterMc
That's weird. I can't get a clip to paste in the selected track. It always pastes in the current/focus track (meaning the one with the name highlighted). I wonder what setting would change that?
 
What happens if the current track is a bus? For me, no paste happens at all.
2015/11/06 20:07:37
Beepster
PeterMc
That's weird. I can't get a clip to paste in the selected track. It always pastes in the current/focus track (meaning the one with the name highlighted). I wonder what setting would change that?
 
What happens if the current track is a bus? For me, no paste happens at all.




I'm shut down for the night so I'll have to check it out tomorrow. It's possible I made some kind of error but I was typing as I tested and honestly it worked pretty much how I expected and am used to things working.
 
Again there could be some Preferences setting or other unseen factor that alters this editing behavior I am not aware of.
 
Cheers.
2015/11/07 07:13:08
gswitz
I believe this is one of those goofy side effects of touch. Because of ten point touch, it is possible for a user to modify a track without putting it in focus.

From the point and click days, when touch wasn't a consideration, special functionality could be enabled around the user focus. The user could only focus on one thing at a time. So, what should the behavior be with ten mouse pointers? Ten finger touch?

Now, special functions related to the track in focus can occur on ten tracks at the same time? No. So, sonar has disconnected the track interaction from the setting of focus. They even added keyboard shortcuts to alter the focus.

In the short run, this causes a good amount of user confusion, especially because most users are not using touch yet.

Most of the heavy users have adapted to these changes, but I struggled to understand when they were first introduced. For example, you can modify an envelope on a track while the track in the track inspector maps to a different track. If you assume that sonar has switched the track inspector focus when you touched the other track, you could make a mistake like modifying the volume on a track you didn't mean to using the fader in the inspector.

The bakers have never confirmed what I am saying, but I have believed it to be true for years now .

While no one has confirmed, no one has denied either.
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